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Tanner Chidester 0:00
Business will only grow as good as your team. And the sooner you realize that as a CEO, the faster you’ll grow because like, if I do 16 hours of work now, like there’s nothing I can do that’s going to make the business go any further. There’s just nothing that that is that important for 16 hours of work. It’s like I need 5678 10 People who are all doing super important tasks.
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You’re listening to business Ninja entrepreneur radio. This show was created for entrepreneurs, business owners, marketers and dreamers who want to learn from the experts of today and drastically shortcut their own success to build a business that supports their dream lifestyle. Since 2011, Tyler Jorgenson has been interviewing business thought leaders from around the world, a serial entrepreneur himself, Tyler also shares his personal insights into what’s working in business today. Welcome to biz ninja, entrepreneur, radio.
Tyler Jorgenson 1:00
Welcome out to business, entrepreneur, radio, I’m your host, Tyler Jorgensen. And, man, we are going into, like well over 500 plus shows and over 200 shows in this iteration of the show. And we’re live on ABC News, radio and podcasts and YouTube and wherever you catch these amazing kinds of interviews. And today we have a great entrepreneur to be talking to Tanner chittister who is the founder of elite CEOs. And Tanner I first met you when you were like apprenticing and kind of learning from David fry. But man watching you take off from there has been insane. So welcome out to the show.
Tanner Chidester 1:39
Yeah, thanks for having me. And you said my last name perfect. So absolutely five star for the show everyone download it, record it, watch it, you are on the Winterless app.
Tyler Jorgenson 1:49
That’s it’s funny out certain names. Some people just don’t get but I grew up with him. chittister. So that’s probably when was the moment that you first realized that you are an entrepreneur.
Tanner Chidester 1:59
Oh, man, it’s so funny you brought so you brought David fry right. And we both know him and we had lunch. And well I was really a backup slightly is when I stopped playing football because my whole goal was to play in the NFL. And that’d be my whole dream my whole life. And then when that stopped, I was going to school and my parents saw us like I don’t Is this what people do the rest of their lives. And I had lunch with David fry. And David Frey was like, Hey, man, you know, you can make a lot of money. It’s like you got the attitude, the look blah, blah, blah. I’m like, I don’t know anything about business. No one in my family never done it. And that guy convinced me to drop out of school in like, a couple months. And then I didn’t are never looked back. So that was like the first moment
Tyler Jorgenson 2:37
now. And that wasn’t super long ago. Like, I mean, that five year four or five years ago,
Tanner Chidester 2:42
I’d say like, yeah, so probably like six or seven years, like right when I was around like 20. So I’m 30 now and he’s kind of convinced me around 23 Right on like, I had a little bit of school left. And I just was like eff it and I just dropped down and I never looked back.
Tyler Jorgenson 2:57
So all right, we’re gonna zoom backwards a little bit. You were you were, you know, wanting to play NFL like you were in college. Did did you feel like that was a dream shift. Like you had to say, Okay, I’m walking away from not one dream in order to chase another.
Tanner Chidester 3:14
Yeah, I never said I you know, it’s funny now that I actually played division one because you see as ESPN and growing up, you’re like, oh my gosh, that must be a freakin dream. But what happens is you get the school is better now actually, with the payment of stuff they’re doing. But sure to get discipline, they just treat you like cattle. I mean, you get in, you get hurt. It’s like they don’t care, they’ll move you out signals comes in. And a lot of the guys, you know, their grades are so bad that if they don’t go pro their life is over. And a lot of them it was and so for me, it was a dream shift. But I it was a blessing in disguise because I got to play with multiple first round draft picks. And until you have, you don’t really understand what they mean by you’re not good enough. Like I played all through high school, cause I’m like, Oh man, like I can play with these guys. But the guys go in the first round. They’re just better, like they are bigger, they’re faster, they’re stronger, they don’t work out doesn’t even matter. You can’t touch them. And so when I saw that, that’s kind of when I was like, hey, you know what, I’m probably not good enough. And that was the first time I was like 2223 And then that’s kind of when things started to shit and I got hurt. To the point I couldn’t really play anymore. The doctors like you can keep playing do but you know, your draft stock isn’t going to be high, your shoulders are all busted up. You have hardly any cartilage left. And that’s kind of when I was like, hey, I need to ship went through a lot and kind of like depression because the identity shift but Oh, yeah. You know, it’s a lot of the stuff I learned is helped me tremendously. And so I want to change it for anything.
Tyler Jorgenson 4:41
You know, I remember one time I was driving and I heard you know, there’s right now it’s baseball signing season, right? So there’s this huge contracts going out. This was probably 10 years ago and I heard somebody signed a really big contract. I did the math. And I was like, okay, like if I wanted to make elite athlete kind of money, here’s how much how I’d have to My business would have to make a day at what profit margin, I realized that’s actually attainable. And I don’t, that doesn’t matter about my genetics or what you know, where I ended up playing college. And I remember thinking how amazing that is that it is possible to make elite athlete money as a business owner. What? So you switch in, when entrepreneurship went that route, you created elite CEOs tell us a little bit about the company now what it does and what you do.
Tanner Chidester 5:24
Yeah. So I mean, I actually started off, it was called Fit warrior, and it was fitness, and I did a million bucks in a year, I was working my brains out. I started seeing a lot of trainers ask me for help. They’re like, dude, like, are you making this money? Started out with trainers. So then it shifted a little bit, we added on this fitness studios division, where as trainers, and then more people asked, and that’s kind of how it started. Elite CEOs now like the company as a whole, it’s been about five years since I started making good money. So really started making money at 25. I just, I just turned 30. I keep saying that. I’m 30 now. And we’ve done on average of about 15 to 20 million a year, first year, we first year, I did a million in my fitness company. Actually, we didn’t 10 than 15. And now around 20. And I think over the next two years, we can get into 40 50 million because we’re now adding in, you know, other divisions. But yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s been a crazy ride, my brothers have done it with me, it’s been cool to like see it was other people’s lives. And, you know, once you have more than enough money to wear, like you’re not going to spend it other than getting a bigger boathouse card, you know, stuff that gets old after six months. It’s really about just the progression as a human. And so I love growing businesses because of what I have to become to grow to the next level. And that’s really been the most rewarding feeling.
Tyler Jorgenson 6:40
So speaking of that growth, both individual and business, what was the hardest number zero to one, one to 10, or 10 to 20.
Tanner Chidester 6:50
Zero to One was an absolute fit show. Um, I mean, I would do in everything. And so when I say I was working 1618 hours a day, I was literally working 1618 hours a day, all day long. And so, you know, as you get to a million, you know, you can start hiring, getting some help. And so I’d say zero to one is just as hard as one to 10 and so on and so forth. But zero to one, I was not healthy. I was like not going to the gym as much. I wasn’t eating good. I started losing hair as well, because I’m so stressed out, I think that was the main cause. It was bad man, I had wrinkles, where I suddenly had wrinkles. Like, I feel like I aged like 10 years, for sure. But it was worth it’s like I don’t know, like short term sacrifice for the long term gain, right?
Tyler Jorgenson 7:37
Well, there’s a difference of like a short term sacrifice that has a plan. Like you’re like, Okay, I’m gonna work because I’m working to hit a milestone and we’re gonna hit a certain goal. And then I’m going to make these changes, as opposed to what some entrepreneurs do, which is get stuck at really just shifting from being employed to being a self to being self employed instead of a business owner. And I think it’s one of the biggest challenges is a lot of people get stuck with all the risk of entrepreneurship without the upside of time freedom, or really true profits. How did you make that that shift? Where you really started saying, No, I’m gonna really focus on being a business owner?
Tanner Chidester 8:11
Well, I think the first thing was, I realized I had to make a certain amount, or I would never get out of it, because you can’t hire anyone. So I printed as hard as I humanly could to a million. And then once I started getting closer to 10, I just realized, Hey, I can’t do everything. And I just started slowly hiring out the most time consuming positions, because like, for me, it was filament, then it’s probably lead generation, then sales calls that as you know, so on and so forth. I’ll be honest, like, when you start hiring, it’s like anything, you’re not very good at it, you don’t really know what to look for. Even if you think you do, you really don’t. And so now that I’m in your five, I’ve really learned now that if you can hire someone who’s a culture fit and has prior experience, it will go so much faster than just hiring for upside. And I used to only hire Hey, you’re cheap, and you seem like your work hard. So I’ll hire you. But the problem is, you basically ended up babysitting them. And so it slows you down. And the three, four grand you’re saving, or whatever the number, you would just be able to spend that on someone more experienced and spend your time elsewhere. And so I think you’ve got to kind of wise up is to get older and understand like, you can’t just always hire the cheapest person, you have to hire the person who has experience and culture fit. You got a heck of
Tyler Jorgenson 9:23
a lot of times you will get one of those things, right. Like, oh, this person has great experience, but they actually don’t blend with the team or they can completely disrupt everything. What was one of the biggest mistakes you made early on and how do you overcome it?
Tanner Chidester 9:36
Oh, there’s so many. It’s like, how do I choose?
Tyler Jorgenson 9:41
Does it early on it could be yesterday? Yeah,
Tanner Chidester 9:45
I mean, I think one of the I think one of the biggest mistakes was probably I mean, probably honestly with hiring I think like my expectations were just like very, very high. And I’m not saying you have to lower them completely, but like I would bring people in and it’s expect them to work 60 hours a day like me. And I think with some of your executives, you can, but you have to understand like, not everyone has the same goals as you. And so it took it took, I probably pushed a lot of people away and turned a lot of people off. Because I was so goal driven, I was like, you do it my way, or you can basically head off. And now over time, I still, I still think I’m a little bit more aggressive than most CEOs, but I’ve dialed it back enough to where it’s like, Hey, here’s the expectations, here’s why they’re here. This is how we do things. If that doesn’t fit, that’s totally cool. You just don’t want to work here, like you’re gonna want to work somewhere else. And so it’s just, it’s just kind of learning how to talk to people and build a team, because ultimately, the business will only grow as good as your team. And the sooner you realize that as a CEO, the faster you’ll grow, because like, if I do 16 hours of work now, like there’s nothing I can do that’s going to make the business go any further. There’s just nothing that that is that important for 16 hours at work. It’s like I need 5678 10 People who are all doing super important tasks. Yeah,
Tyler Jorgenson 11:01
yeah, I’ve seen that a lot. As people start realizing like, I need my team, you need your team to have some bandwidth, some some room left. And in case an important project comes up the oven running at full speed, there’s no ability to be agile and adjust if something comes up. So like there’s a value in having space and margin available with your team.
Tanner Chidester 11:21
And it’s also you just do less work. Like when you’re starting the business, you’re doing everything, and then it gets to the point where you’re just in general. And so I spend most of my days now meeting with my managers and directing and what we used to do, and I’m actually not doing hardly any of the work, it feels different. It like at first, it’s actually hard, you feel like you’re being lazy, but that’s actually what the business requires. On a higher level, you just have to have other people do the work for you. And you’re simply kind of directing them what they do.
Tyler Jorgenson 11:46
So as you move from fit warrior into elite CEO is kind of up leveled the brand and kind of gone broader. What is your company do?
Tanner Chidester 11:54
Yeah, so in short, I mean, we just help take, you know, businesses and help them get, you know, to that first 10k Plus month, or we take you know, existing businesses and help them scale. And, you know, I like to think we do probably one of the best jobs out there. I mean, you get a personalized coach, you get templates, get emails, you get a copywriting coach, you get a messaging coach, you get three calls a day group call one to one, office hour live events. I mean, it’s just like as hands on as it possibly can without us running the business for you. They got any more hands on, I feel like I’d have to take equity himself. But we really just take all the stuff I did to grow my companies. It just naturally progressed because people said, Well, dude, like, what are you doing? And I said, All right, like, Here you go. And so I never really thought I was going to grow this company. But it kind of just progressed naturally. And that’s what it turned into.
Tyler Jorgenson 12:45
You’ve hit some big milestones, right? And I know that you you also, one of my favorite things that you do is you interview a lot of other big entrepreneurs, and you provide like a nice summary of what you’re learning from that. What are some people that you have helped you along in your journey we mentioned David fry, like Who else has been kind of instrumental in like helping you as you’ve learned and grown? Yeah,
Tanner Chidester 13:07
so David fry, for sure. He’s like a second father to me, just without him. I don’t think I ever would have started down entrepreneurship, I’d have some job I hate and I make far less money than I make now and not you know, I wouldn’t know anyone on my team, my friends, etc. I’d say the next person honestly that I got really close to over the past year was you know, just Alex for mosey he’s been a really good friend of mine. He, He gives really good advice. He has like, guys like a No BS meter. And so he’ll say stuff to me that sometimes I’m like, Damn, dude, like, that was extremely direct, but I appreciate it. And it’s been helpful for me simply for the fact that I feel like we relate on a lot of levels. And also he’s close to me and age. And so I had, you know, I still I’m, I feel like I’m always improving as a person. But I always had this ego when someone older will talk to me. I was like, Yeah, you’re old. Like, you’re old. Yeah, whatever, dude, you’re like, 20 years older than me. But like, when Alex talks, I’m like, you know, he’s only a couple years older than me. And so I was like, any super successful. So it just really resonated and a lot of what he said really, like, impacted me and helped me. And so I’d say between those two, it’s like, I don’t talk to too many people. I’ve had some other good conversations, but on a consistent basis. Those two guys have really like helped me along. Awesome.
Tyler Jorgenson 14:21
Who’s someone you really look up to? That’s, I mean, you mentioned Alex, but who’s someone like way afar like maybe farther ahead? Or even historically, that you really look up to him? What do you one of the most impressive
Tanner Chidester 14:33
conversations I’ve had so far was a guy named Scott Cohen. I’ve only talked to him once. And I plan on talking to him again but he actually took his company to a billion dollars in two years completely bootstrapped and he has an internet marketing background so it’s super cool conversation because he was a hidden SEO and ad agency he saw Invisalign basically was like a beat them at their own game that everything better and sold it for a billion. And that just to me blew my mind and just the speed at how Fast to win and just the fact you have that kind of internet marketing background. And so there’s there’s always other people I look at. I’m like, Wow, that’s impressive. But I think just because this was the space I, you know, was taught, and this is where I started from, I always look at guys now that like, you know what promos he’s doing Alex Becker, Scott Cohen’s a great example that like we’re starting internet marketing, and they kind of went into another direction and use what they learned. So yeah, super impressive guy like, love the conversation, like just blew my mind how fast he grew. It’s amazing.
Tyler Jorgenson 15:30
Yeah. And, you know, as someone who’s a little bit farther in age than you, then you and Alex. Not a ton, but a little bit, right. Yeah. You know, it’s fast, because I remember being your age and really Savin that same thing, where I look up, okay, if you’re a few years older than me, I want to learn for you, if you’re farther than that, there’s almost like, you don’t understand my me and my era, my generation or what the world is today. But man, I wish I would have kept that a little bit more open mindedness, and just like, What can I learn from each person? You know, and I think that’s just one of the things with time that you realize, you can get amazing ideas from, from anybody, right, at any level and some of the hyper implementers that I know, are the kind of people that do look, it just what can they learn from anyone around them, even if they’re not ahead of right, like, Oh, this guy might be farther behind me, but I can apply what he’s doing into what I know, and, and have a result, right. And that’s
Tanner Chidester 16:25
potential. And it’s also just like, to your point, I love that, you know, there’s always someone doing better than you. And so I think it’s like, just keeping that humility and understanding. Like, sometimes you’re like, Oh, I’m the big dog here. But the reality is, like you when you grow, you’re just getting a bigger pond where you’re a smaller fish. And so just kind of keeping that perspective, what you said is like, there’s always something to learn, and being open minded. And you know, the smartest people on earth think they’re dumb, right? They think, oh, I don’t know that much. And the smart and the dumbest people on earth think they know a lot. And so I agree with that sentiment. And so just not being that ego. And learning from everyone is like definitely the way to go.
Tyler Jorgenson 17:01
Yeah, I love that the concept that you have to be willing to be to seem ignorant, and be uncomfortable, if you want to keep growing. There is also that that temptation that once you hit one level of success, you have to now like brace yourself and stand on a on a podium, right and stand on this pedestal. But really, like if you want to maintain that. And that’s why I love your story, because you went here today pretty fast. But I am most impressed by how fast you went one to 10. Businesses I mean, you know, most people do not do that their second year. That is super
Tanner Chidester 17:34
uncommon. Yeah, well, it’s like and it makes it sometimes I get mad because I’m like, Man, that it really hurt my Clickfunnels progression to get to the 25 and 50 million, because at first year, but know that it was, it definitely was i All I cared about at that point in my life was it was work, work, work, work, work and everything. And anyone was second. And so you know, I’m glad I did it. But it’s also to keep perspective. People hear that. And I’m like, I gave up everything to do that. And so if it sounds impossible, it’s because it nearly was. So that’s you know, it was it was a fun ride. Don’t I’m glad I did it.
Tyler Jorgenson 18:08
Yeah. Yeah, I don’t think it’s, it’s it works. It’s what works for you. It doesn’t mean it’s always the only path. And that is one of the great things about being able to learn from others. It’s actually why I started the show. It’s like, okay, how do I learn from other people without having to necessarily go through the same amount of sacrifice? Right? So you know, you you did that you did a big sacrifice to get to where you are? How are you making sure you have better work life balance or work life integration now at this stage?
Tanner Chidester 18:35
Yes, that’s a such a great question. So I think I’m a little maybe I’m a little against the grain on this. But I don’t necessarily think there is a quote unquote, work life balance. I think I’m at the point in my life where I just do what I want to do. And so I think, you just have to really audit yourself, I got to a point where I felt if I wasn’t working, I wasn’t progressing. Now I’m in a phase where I’ve realized, hey, whether I hit a billion or 10 billion, or a trillion, or even, like 100 million, whatever, like, I’m not going to feel any different. And so for me, there are some things I do enjoy outside of work, not a ton. I do, I like work is definitely like one of my favorite things. But there’s a few things. So I just take a little more time now where I’m like, hey, you know what? I said, going to bed tonight at nine o’clock, or 10. I’m gonna go out my friends and have a good time. I don’t do it very often. And I’m not going to feel bad about it. But it’s just more of a personal decision. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way to do things. And I think a lot of people, they try to project what they think is right on others. And it’s like, hey, if they want to work 100 hours a week, let them work 100 hours a week, but for you, fulfillment spending, you know, 40 of your hours with your family and friends, by all means, because at the end of the day, a lot of what we do does not matter. That’s my opinion. And so it’s like just do what you want to do. And if it makes you happy, then who’s to say that
Tyler Jorgenson 19:50
you’re wrong. The biggest thing that that that I really agree with that I’ve had to learn recently is the not feeling bad about it. It’s like if you want to go and spend time that your friends are in one night. And that means you’re probably not going to be as productive the next the first few hours of the next day, right? That’s okay. As long as you stay as long as you made the decision and like deliberately making a choice to do this, because it’s what I want. That’s totally healthy. Now I just say what’s nowadays to pretend, oh, I’m not, you know, I’m doing this, but I’m still gonna get up and be super productive. It’s like, No, you’re not the honest yourself,
Tanner Chidester 20:23
right? And just being okay with that outcome. So like, if you’re in a point in your life, where all you care about is growth and money and finances, and you just want to go as fast as you can, then yeah, you might need to make that sacrifice. But if you’re if you’re okay, you can just be honest, like, Hey, I’m okay to put that on the backburner for a day. I 100%. Agree. It’s just not saying both where it’s like, Oh, I’m gonna still be just as productive. It’s like you’re not and I agree. So I agree with what you just said. That’s 100%. Spot on.
Tyler Jorgenson 20:47
Yeah, I think I think that’s my biggest adjustment over the past few years is just being really honest with myself and being very deliberate. Like, you know, you can’t, you’re not going to accidentally, you know, grow a $50 million company, right? Like, you got to be deliberate. You got to be really smart with it all. What are some common mistakes that you see your students make? And what advice do you have for people making those mistakes?
Tanner Chidester 21:12
So I think the most common is like one, people underestimate how hard they’re going to have to work. So it’s like weird, but for some reason, I guess people just have this like threshold. And if they have to work harder than that they quit. And then two is that most people just are not that good at what they do. They’re just not. And it’s really interesting. But you know, people never do something. And then they think the first 10 tries, it should work. And people forget, you know, I started trying to build a business at 23. I didn’t make any money till 25. Why? Because I was working in door to door sales, I was doing all of garden, I was like, just didn’t really know what I was doing. But all that stuff, people like, Oh, you went zero to a million a year. And then you went one to 10. I was like, because I can sell whites out. Because I spent eight months of my life selling door to door security alarms 12 hours a day, six days a week. So I just think the biggest thing is like people’s expectations are just not realistic. And then they’re not really willing to learn the skill for me what my biggest strength was, and you can ask David fry, and that’s why like, you remember the little apprentice stuff, you know, he showed me sleep and and stuff. But I just told him, I said, when I met him, I say, hey, if I have to lick a floor to be a millionaire, I’ll do it. And but I meant it. And a lot of people, they get a lot of this hustle porn stuff. And they like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. And then when it comes time to do the work, and nobody’s watching, they don’t want to do it. So I just think it’s one being willing to do the work and then to like, understand, you’re probably stuck. And that’s like, a hard thing for people to understand is like, they always want to blame the coach, the person the program, there’s circumstances situation. And that’s not a helpful thought. And so when you’re like, hey, what am I doing wrong? Not only do you take your power back, but you’ll actually improve. So between those two things that my best clients take massive ownership, and they just go harder than anyone else. And they’re the ones who like Tanner, oh my gosh, he’s so amazing. Like, I didn’t do anything like you did at all. Like I didn’t do anything.
Tyler Jorgenson 23:04
So probably you provided frameworks, right? I think what’s interesting is one of the biggest factors, I’ve seen it people who excel who grow really fast, it is exactly what you said, are they willing to do the work, because you know, you work 16 hour days, most people are only working about four, like, right there, they’re not really being productive. And in that, like there’s been studies done, where it’s actually even less for the average employee to working, productive work is under two hours a day. So if you say, Okay, I’m going to focus on being productive, let’s even just an eight, right, you’re four times you’re doing four times the productivity in a given day. And so if you’re, you’re willing to do the work and put in the reps, and you’re we’re also doing extra and you’re taking ownership and accountability, like you’re compounding that time. And your two years that you spent might be with somebody else’s 10 years. Now I’m all of the I’m of the belief that like, if you’re only in a race with yourself, there’s not like just because it took you one year doesn’t mean everyone has to do it in one year, or two years or three or whatever. But it’s about taking the ownership and being saying, Hey, I know I’m still stuck in this place because I haven’t put in the work instead of blaming a program or a course or a book or whatever right like taken out a huge
Tanner Chidester 24:16
number sent it like to your point like that’s prob Scott Cohen he did a million in two years. So like it’s like if I’m comparing myself to him, and I’m going to feel like shit, you know, but to someone else, right? Wow. Many years. Amazing. But yeah, you’re right, everyone’s playing a race. And it’s just if you’re not good enough yet, I always tell people I say like, unless you actually have a mental condition like not in a joking way, like actual mental disability, the bed the benefit of doing the recipe, even if you’re terrible and mental states eventually it’s like okay, this is hot. So put my hand there. You keep doing it over and over eventually you should get there. Right No matter where you are. I just think a lot of people they stop before they get there. And that’s the sad part because I did the math. Today I you know my net worth law. So we just mean millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars. And I probably would have made what four or $500,000 as an engineer today, and instead of go to work with a million in sales, and I almost quit, you could ask David, I call that guy like five times. I’m like, bro, I’m gonna quit. I’m gonna quit. I’m gonna quit. And so that’s like, what makes me sad is like, that’s what happens to a lot of people if they just quit right before they hit success. And, yeah, that’s gonna make people successful. Unfortunately, it’s just tough.
Tyler Jorgenson 25:26
Yeah, it takes Well, it takes that grit of pushing through when it looks like because to me, there’s a there’s a fine line between personal persevering, even when all signs are a you’re on the wrong path. Versus I’m going to persevere even though I’m in a hard stage, there’s a difference. Some businesses need to be quit, some ventures need to not be pursued, that’s okay. Stopping as an individual on your path to success or whatever your goal is. That’s not okay. Right. That’s the difference to be between grit and just like being stubborn.
Tanner Chidester 25:57
Yeah. And I think like people can just look at it like the four minute mile. I bring this up in a couple interviews, but Billie Jean, I remember seeing his ads. And when I saw his ads, like, I know, this thing can work now, because I keep seeing this guy. And like you can’t be smarter than me not in a bad way. Just I like looked up to. And so I think it’s kind of that four minute mile mentality. If you see someone who’s done what you you’re trying to do, you’ve got to know it to work. And that’s what’s got to keep you moving forward. Because it can’t be that much harder than you got has to be your mentality
Tyler Jorgenson 26:27
has to be. I totally agree. I think success leaves clues and the more people that you’re looking out to and the more open minded you are, the more see the more clues you’re going to see. If you want to see more clues that Tanner is dropping, you can follow him on Instagram at Tanner dot chittister. You can go to elite ceos.com and learn more about what they’re doing. Tinder. My last question for you is a personal question. It’s about because, you know, I know for you business is your main thing. But to me, business is about also creating a lifestyle that you’re happy with. Yeah, what’s one personal item on your on your bucket list you’re going to do in the next 12 months?
Tanner Chidester 27:06
Well, a man that’s what a great question. So I’m actually stepping out in the next, like under 30 days as the face so I’ll be advising but I’ll be stepping out and I’m going to be traveling for like two months. And so a lot of the advice I’ve gotten from the fluent people I’ve talked to they said hey, take two months, do whatever the hell you want to do read whatever you want to read, and your next idea will come so I’m going to be traveling I’m not sure yet, but we’re gonna start making the list in the next week. So
Tyler Jorgenson 27:34
super stoked to see or travel to or do you not know yet,
Tanner Chidester 27:38
you know, just somewhere in Europe or Asia so I can’t get on my phone and talk to my team. So that’s actually the plan is like make sure the timezone is different enough that the work, but really, I haven’t traveled too much outside of South America and I’ve gotten to Europe once so I’m kind of probably going to get over in Europe and Asia. So work with there.
Tyler Jorgenson 27:57
And there’s a lot of great places Tanner thank you so much for coming out on the show everyone please go give him a follow on Instagram Tanner dot chittister And you can find find him at elite CEOs Tanner, thank you so much. Now my business is wherever you’re watching, listening, tuning in, it’s your turn to go out and do something.
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