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If you’re listening to business inja entrepreneur radio this show was created for entrepreneurs, business owners, marketers and dreamers who want to learn from the experts of today and drastically shortcut their own success to build a business that supports their dream lifestyle. Since 2011, Tyler Jorgenson has been interviewing business thought leaders from around the world, a serial entrepreneur himself. Tyler also shares his personal insights into what’s working in business today. Welcome to biz ninja, entrepreneur radio.
Tyler Jorgenson 0:38
Welcome out to business entrepreneur radio. I am your host, Tyler Jorgensen. And today we have my sister from another mister Renee rebar coming to us live and Hi, from the Midwest. Baby Detroit Motor City. Welcome out to the show. Rene, super excited to have you here.
Renee Hribar 0:58
Thank you so much for having me,
Tyler Jorgenson 0:59
longtime listener first time caller, which is not something I can say for everyone who joins the show. But super excited to have you. And so my first question is the one I usually start with Renee, When was the moment that you first realize you were an entrepreneur?
Renee Hribar 1:14
I was in sixth grade. And my mom was a Wrigley’s gum rep. And she had cases of this gum, you know, Bubblicious and it was just around. And so I knew that I could chew gum in class, as the teacher said, If I could just bring enough for everyone else. And so I did. And then I sold it at the end recess. 25 cents for you know, those little squares. And I knew that was it, I can make money for selling things. I mean,
Tyler Jorgenson 1:41
a lot of people that come on the show, it’s one or the other. Either they had that elementary school hustle like they’ve been they were business entrepreneurial from day one, or they kind of were the Late Bloomer entrepreneur, you’re you were like me, where you were scrapping from the early days. What was the first venture where you were like, Okay, I’m actually I’m a business owner, not just not a side hustler.
Renee Hribar 2:03
I was 23. And I was working for another company as a sales rep. And I was doing great. They were promoting me from the Albany office to the Manhattan office to my own office down in Atlanta. Lots of fun stories in Buckhead. I’m glad there wasn’t the Internet back then I just want to say, that’s I share these stories. And then either an opportunity came up for me to buy the Detroit territory and have it as my own. You know, it was it was great. I didn’t know anything about it. I actually thought Detroit was west of Chicago. I’m just gonna blame it on my public school, New York City. Education. It’s New York, blah, blah, blah, California, blah, blah, blah. Don’t go anywhere else. Yep. Yep. So that’s all I knew. And I came to Detroit, it was right around St. Patrick’s Day. And I went to this little pub, that I was asking everybody, what am I going to do? I you know, it’s not Manhattan, that must be boring here. And that’s when I met this cute, tall redhead. And that’s the guy married. And then I stayed here. But I definitely did not have plans to live in Detroit forever. But love had other plans.
Tyler Jorgenson 3:08
And so your first like business venture was like big, you know, you actually started in a business started doing sales, which of itself is a very entrepreneurial, spirit driven profession. And then you have the ability to then take on that ownership and stuff as well. What was the biggest gap as you shifted from being just a sales rep to a business owner? How did you bridge that?
Renee Hribar 3:30
It was, you know, I am with you, I am in the field with you. I am your teammate, maybe even competition to Okay, everybody. We’re gonna, we’re gonna do it all together. And moving into leadership that was really that was really challenged. I did a lot of leadership training. I didn’t have that in my undergrad, English education. So I invested externally. I had a lot of Brian Tracy and John Maxwell and Tony Robbins. And I loved it. And it helped me It helped me bridge that gap, because we were all about the same age too. And I was I you know, yeah. And the person I was the same person I am now which is just a loudmouth New Yorker.
Tyler Jorgenson 4:09
Right? So a lot of it’s interesting, because a lot of people who follow a similar path, do it a little bit opposite. Maybe they figured out leadership that grew in management opportunities. And then they usually, it seems to me from my perspective, the bigger gap in early stage entrepreneurs is learning how to sell. And that’s something you were already you’d already had some experience. And so you but you did the same thing. You went out and you talk sought mentors and training and things like that. When you see early stage entrepreneurs getting started. Do you also see that gap in sales? And what’s your big advice to them?
Renee Hribar 4:43
Great question. A lot of them have a great idea. They feel like it’s a winner. And they go and they build everything out. And you know, you’ve said this in the show many times I know if anyone else is listening as long as I have. You cannot build it and hope they’re gonna come you have to test it along the way and So one of the best advice I ever got from my first sales manager was you’re never going to know if somebody is going to say yes until you ask them. So it’s not like you can’t it’s kind of like in middle school, you know, you Johnny sends you a note, Johnny wants to know if the answer to the dance would just say, yes. He’s got to ask to know for sure. So you’ve got to pull it out of the trunk and put it in their hand and say, it’s five bucks, do you want it or not? That’s the only way. So all this ideation and business planning is great. But you still have to test the idea. Because what is the first question they asked you when you go on Shark Tank or in any investor room is tell me your sales numbers? And if they’re like, We have a great business plan, you’re like, that’s the question. That’s, that’s
Tyler Jorgenson 5:36
the biggest advice in sales is to start actually doing
Renee Hribar 5:39
start, sell the first thing that you have, don’t wait to have an offer. So you don’t want to have a suite of skews, don’t wait to have a shelf full of stuff. Start with the first thing. So I say oftentimes be the water to my to my client, be the water, the water always finds a way find the path of least resistance, don’t make it so hard for yourself. So find that first. That first person to talk to maybe it’s somebody you know, and sell them the first thing to get that confidence to get that income. And to validate that offer.
Tyler Jorgenson 6:09
In, I was just listening to somebody else talking about sales, and one of the biggest things that they talked about was getting your reps in, like you have to try. You have to you have to make the sales pitch, you’re gonna learn more from the attempts at selling than you ever do just reading books and try and like theoretically doing it right. So you have to love that like take it out of the truck and say it’s five bucks. Do you want it right? And so what are you doing now? What’s your business?
Renee Hribar 6:34
Yes, so I coach business owners, particularly women business owners, because I have found over my 30 years of experience now I counted it the other day that I must be older than I thought. I is that women specifically sell differently than men because we are nurturers by nature. Not that men are not nurturing. I have three beautiful brothers that I love a husband, I love a son I love they’re very nurturing and an amazing gentleman, but women specifically have in their head, I don’t want to push, I don’t want to force I don’t want to convince manipulate. Okay, of course, you know. So let’s have a gentle a genuine conversation. So I teach them how to bring out their inner mother. And so I have a course called Celica mother, because if you can convince your kid to do anything, pick up their socks, eat broccoli, you’ve got sales skills, and we can leverage that what you already know, to offering it for your own business.
Tyler Jorgenson 7:28
I think that’s huge. And even though I give you a hard time about you know that you mostly just work with women, because I’m like, Well, what about me, you don’t want my help, and you want you don’t want to help me. But I understand that it’s a really strong avatar, and people that really need your help. So I actually love it, even though if I give you a hard time with it. When people go to Renee rebar.com. And they check you out. And they’re looking and they’re learning about SEL like a mother. What are some of the biggest barriers that people who are making this transition face? And how are you helping them?
Renee Hribar 7:56
That’s great. They say, I don’t know what to sell, because they haven’t actually pulled it out of the trunk and offered it. Yeah, they’d been in ideation mode. And I say, Well, the best way is to offer something. And then when you get that feedback, you’re going to know well, let’s they take that offer. Let’s add this, it sounds like this. So I am all about experiential learning. So I’d give them tiny little pieces of meaningful sales activities of the, you know, the bigger picture tiny little pieces to take Tylenol steps to take, like, I call it 10 minute steps that they can take today. So they don’t procrastinate. They don’t get in their own head, they don’t think too much. And they can actually make that first sale faster than they ever imagined. So I helped them move through that barrier of making their first sale by not having step 25 planned out yet before you take step one.
Tyler Jorgenson 8:39
All right. So we’ve covered what you’re doing right now. And we covered what you did when you got started, right? There’s a big gap there of experience and wonderful stories and wisdom. But when you started doing your first business and you were growing, then you got to face leadership, what was one of the biggest mistakes that you personally made in the early days and how to overcome it,
Renee Hribar 8:59
I treated everybody like family, which you would think would be a bad a good thing and it is to a certain extent except they’re not. And even if they were you wouldn’t want them you know, if you’ve ever been in business with your family, you know that you probably don’t want to also do it again. So what I missed initially were clear boundaries about where everybody is supposed to be. So just like a great you know, Coach like John wouldn’t he wouldn’t be like just go out and play basketball, you know, he would have a plan. And so to me today and in the future, as I give advice on this, it’s have contracts, good fences, keep good neighbors good contracts, keep good friendships. So if you really want to be friends have a rock solid contract, so that if it ever comes down to it, you’re like, reviewing the black and white ink on paper, you’re like this is what I am paid to show up to do and this is what you need to show up to do. So we don’t have to worry if I’m not showing up or if they’re not showing up in the way that they’re supposed to. So good contracts both for employees calm contractors and clients?
Tyler Jorgenson 10:01
Yeah, it’s interesting. I heard once that the faintest ink is stronger than the best memory. Right? I think there’s a fancier way to say it. But I think there’s a lot of emotion and, you know, memory evolution happens over time. And so sometimes it’s easy to, you know, go back, refer to that contract for oh, hey, remember when we agreed to this, like, remember, remember that. So let’s, here’s what we wrote down. And both agreed to? I liked that idea. Good fences, keep good neighbors. I think that’s really strong. So as you’re growing, you’ve got your sales stuff happening. Give us another big story of the early days of, you know, Rene being the, you know, beast of a salesperson.
Renee Hribar 10:44
So I have traditionally cut my teeth on things, concepts, things that people were unaware of, like credit card processors, so I was in the field selling for into it, which owned QuickBooks, it still does. And we were selling credit card processing machines to small to medium sized businesses. And they were like, why would a new credit card machine because people use cash or cheque. So the front line was having to explain what credit card processing was the benefits of credit card processing. And now that you know that here is a credit card processing offer. And so that was exhausting. And so what I learned early on is that you don’t want to make two sales at once. And so as much as you can educate, indoctrinate, before you get to the actual offer, the better chances you have of someone taking you up on that offer. And so thank you, Internet, and thank you email service providers. And thank you automations, to me and my business to reach out connect with educate, nurture, indoctrinate, so that by the time I put that offer in front of them, whether it’s on the phone, or in an email or on a sales page, they understand the things that they need to understand to make the right decision on whether that offer is their next best step or not. I don’t have to convince them of two things at once, because that is super hard.
Tyler Jorgenson 12:06
I’m like having light bulbs go off, because that is one of the biggest challenges. And oftentimes we talk about it just in pre framing, even just the state of mind that somebody is in when they come to your sales page or coming to your sales call even this the energy state matters, let alone what information they already have available or have already accepted. Right, that’s even bigger. And so you know, and you’re right, like there’s a lot that we can do in sales process automated through email and through, you know, thank you internet, right that we can do before the sale. But if it is the first time that might mean you’re not selling the big thing yet, right, you might need to start by selling in your in that example. And I’m just going to tell you what the future is with credit cards and why they matter to businesses. Right? And that might be all you’re able to sell day one. Right? Interesting. So you, you do a lot of different things, though. You don’t you have yourself like a mother, but you also do some events and some trips. Tell us more about what you’re doing in your business now.
Renee Hribar 13:04
Yeah, thank you. So I do the same thing. I just do it in different containers. So there are people, everybody needs sales skills, I don’t care if they’ve sold before they’ve been superstar sales people, they all need to continue to sharpen their saw. And I know enough about people now thankfully, that unfortunately, those lessons were hard when, you know, burning my hands many times, some people doesn’t matter how much they need you. They’ll never buy a course, they just want you to tell them what to do. Great. So I offer one on one consulting fantastic. Some people just want you to teach their sales team. Fantastic. So I offer sales team training. Some people just want to come to a retreat, spend $10,000 Enjoy Mexico, go on a horseback ride and the beach. And after that talk about their mission vision values for their sales team and their sales. And so I offer those different containers, but I do the same thing. And that keeps my saw sharp and I love the story and I’m sure you’ve heard this before of the old lumberjack. Maybe he’s in the Redwood Forest. And I’m laughing because there’s a story about the redwood forest but the reality is he you know, he’s the old lumber that he’s old, he’s he’s new and he’s weak. He’s thin and every time a new lumberjack comes to town like I’m gonna beat the old guy. The new lumberjack goes and Chatswood Chatswood and chops wood just to get strong and all that old man does is just sit there all day and sharpen his saw and when the day comes where the contest happens like okay guys who’s gonna chop this tree down first the old man goes one slice done. And then the young buck is like I’m chopping away chipping away it doesn’t matter. Sharpening that sauce to whatever level you’re at. You’re listening to this. You can always get better you can always get you can always sharpen your saw and sales will win every time you can make better decisions with money in your pocket with revenue coming in than if your backs against the wall. And you’ve got to choose. It’s never fun.
Tyler Jorgenson 14:53
Yeah, so sales gives you choices. Sales gives you choices and you’re absolutely right i i said once that money He doesn’t buy happiness, but it buys time and freedom to make better decisions. And that’s a good way to get happy is to be able to make better decisions. So having being able to sell can create a lot of opportunity. And that, to me is really everything is the opportunity to do to choose the life that we want. We talked a lot about lifestyle design on this show. And so as you have pivoted to, you know, from the careers, you and the business that you’ve done the past and did mount now doing more sales training, how are you making sure that all the different containers and things you’re doing, stay in their lane and allow you to still live the life you want to live?
Unknown Speaker 15:38
Great question. It’s difficult, because not only do our clients and our dogs like to scope creep, you know, when you like, you get the dog, you’re like, my dog will never sleep on the bed. And then the next week, you know, they’re on your pillow. And basically, you’re on the dog bed, right? So we start with the best of intentions. The only way that I do this is with a great team of people who are bound, but we also write a contract every quarter, this is what our focus is, we cannot we will not break this contract. These are the only three projects, we’re going to work on this quarter. And if we have to break it, we have to have like a tribunal, like three of us have to agree that that’s not going to be the situation and that never happened. So in the past, I would work on 1517 20 to really Tyler really exciting projects, and get nothing done, feel exhausted and wonder why I was so frustrated and sad. So doing less a to an innovator to a visionary is like bondage. But in reality, in practice, it is freedom. Yep.
Tyler Jorgenson 16:46
I think that’s I mean, that’s probably my number one challenge personally is I don’t, I’m never short on ideas. They’re all brilliant. And or at least at the moment, they all seem that way until they’re tested. And so it’s hard like you can and I heard it early on in my career, I was, I’ll name drop for a second, I was talking with Seth Godin. And I was like, he asked me, he’s like, Well, what do you work? And I was like, I’ve got a couple of cool projects. And he goes, Well, you know, and he was signing a book at the time. And he was what you’ll read on page 17 of my book where I don’t recommend work on more than one project at a time. And I was like, Oh, cool. Thanks, like, so my, my time was Seth Godin was him, basically telling me I’m doing it wrong. And it’s been a challenge ever since. So I’ve tried to be like, okay, at least if I have a project, there has to be a different person, that’s the pilot of that project. Like they’re the captain, they’re leading it, I can maybe cast the vision, but I’m not going to be able to execute. And that’s hard. I also realized, man, I have so much less energy now than I had 10 years ago. So I have to protect it more fiercely. Even if in the end, I’m still you still have the same number of hours in the day. It’s just different. So what are you seeing work really well for you these days?
Renee Hribar 17:59
Professionally is continuing to stay focused on what I what I want. So I say three projects per quarter, I mean, one per month, we’re gonna get it done and come hell or high water, that’s gonna be it. And so, continuing to read, continuing to pray continuing to write a journal. Do I feel like I’m laughing because there’s not news to anyone. But doing it as a difference, knowing what to do and doing it are two extremely different things, actually doing it. And then the days that I don’t giving myself grace, and saying I’ll get back on it tomorrow.
Tyler Jorgenson 18:34
Another thing I heard just recently, I think is really relevant right now is that, like, there’s not any new information out there. There’s not any new words, but there are people that are waiting for you to stay in your way. Right? So even though you’re like, Oh, this isn’t anything new. There’s people that need to hear you that message that like, Hey, be laser focused, pick one big project at a time, like, learn to sell sharpen the saw. They’re not new, especially to you who has been teaching this for 30 years. And it is things that people need to hear. And so what are some things that people can do to get better at sales? Other than just do?
Renee Hribar 19:09
Yeah, so the first and best lesson and I still have to learn it, unfortunately, is to know that the hardest territory to work, it’s not, it’s not what platform you’re on. It’s not Twitter, or LinkedIn, or this area, or that area, or this product or that product, the very hardest product or territory to work or these four inches in between your ears, that gray matter if you can get that right, if you can get your mind right, you can become limitless because then you’ll have the focus to be able to do the things that you know your to do, so that you can get to the goal.
Tyler Jorgenson 19:41
So practically, what does that look like between someone who doesn’t and someone who does? Does it?
Renee Hribar 19:45
What does that look like for the person to implement? I would
Tyler Jorgenson 19:49
like give an example of someone who had a great opportunity in sales and didn’t have their mind right that could be you or someone somebody you’ve coached and missing an opportunity versus someone who had their mind mind right was able to close an opportunity here.
Renee Hribar 20:00
Questions. So bad, I’m gonna refer back to this. The time when I had my first Detroit territory, same exact streets, businesses, same lead lists, same product, and John would go out and he’d be like, there’s nobody in that territory that wants anything. This territory is done, Renee, you can cross it off the map, don’t send anybody belts back in there. It’s toast. And then you would get married that comes in the very next week, fresh, new, really green, not even as good at sales as John is. But she’s optimistic. She’s got a fresh mindset. She goes in, she makes 100 grand out of that same territory the very next week. Why? Because she had a better mindset. So that’s an example of it’s, it’s, you know, they, we would say, it’s not the bum territory, it’s the bum in the territory. And so the reality is, it might not be a bum idea, or a bum product or a bum deal. It might just be you need to check yourself.
Tyler Jorgenson 20:53
Yeah, and you can go back to like Glengarry Glen Ross for like, these leads are bad. And you know, the coffee is for closers, all these things, but the reality is, is you’re already assuming something’s bad. You’re right. And I used, I came up with this idea during high school, where a friend of mine was like, super embarrassed, didn’t want to talk to any girls. Because in his brain, none of the girls liked him. I was like, Hey, you like, have they told you that? And he’s like, No, I was like, well, if they haven’t told you that, then you have a choice of what you can assume. So you could assume they don’t like you. And they don’t want you to talk to him. Or you can assume until they tell you otherwise, that they actually do like you. And just changing that like mindset, I’m like, Just go talk to him and find out. Because if you’re going to make an assumption, at least assume something positive. Right. And so I’ve seen that same exact high school mentality of like, good salespeople assume that the call is going to go? Well, they assume that when they walk into new office, they’re going to be received, they’re gonna, they assume that they’re going to have rapport with the receptionist, they’re going to get past the gatekeeper, they make positive assumptions instead of negative assumptions. And that, to me, is like, for me, in my experience, is the number one difference between the gray matter mentality of like, when I show up to a call, what are my assumptions? If I am seeing positive assumptions, I usually do pretty well. But if I’m feeling negative, or dark, or not see, or thinking, Oh, this is probably not going to work, because maybe I’m not a fit. Well, it’s amazing how that tends to materialize. Right and become true. And there’s so much self fulfilling prophecy even before you get into the mechanics of sales.
Renee Hribar 22:27
1,000,000,000% I couldn’t agree more. And so I’m positive thinking is ever gonna get to get me, you know, on the first draft round of the NFL, but it’s not going to hurt. I mean, maybe I can be The Waterboy? I don’t know.
Tyler Jorgenson 22:41
Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe you can kick that. We just never knew you’ve got it. Right. But But again, yes, positive thinking may not get you into a different life completely. Or at least not overnight. Right. But so, okay, mindset is huge. And the tricks of getting into a positive mindset before a sales call?
Renee Hribar 23:01
I do. I mean, I definitely, you know, it’s, it’s, as much as I hate to admit it, like, it is physiological. And so standing up having your breath. I mean, I am a certified yoga teacher, not because I wanted to be a yoga teacher, but because I wanted to examine what breathwork could do for your mindset. Because sometimes all we were standing in the middle of somewhere, we can’t like, jump up and down and clap our hands like Tony Robbins, Washington do, although like
Tyler Jorgenson 23:23
that you kept your fingers out a little bit.
Renee Hribar 23:27
That’s him. Yeah. You know, so all that to say, we can’t always do loud and big movements, we can always cover our breath. And so breathwork is huge. And so that is specific. If you’re in go on YouTube, if you go to, you know, search breath work. For positive mindset, I’m sure you’ll get about 500 videos.
Tyler Jorgenson 23:48
Yeah. And it’s amazing how a lot of times we can look at what our sometimes our nervous habits are trying to help us to do. So a lot of times when people start getting into a sales thing, what do they do, they’ll pace. And I’m like, Your body knows you need to change state. And but you’re just not you’re allowing it to happen instead of you to create it. And so I’m a huge believer of state and creating state and being able to recognize and just being mindful of it. So to me, like the number one thing is to recognize what is your energy that you bring into a call? What is the energy you’re bringing to it? And being able to say like, Hey, you know what, I’m gonna give me give me a quick minute, go on, zoom, hit, mute, or hit, turn off the camera, do a couple jumping jacks, come back with a different energy. It’s amazing how much that can change. But you’re a TEDx speaker. That’s cool. Would you speak on?
Renee Hribar 24:36
What is your idea worth selling to us a group of social sellers in Guatemala of all places, it was the only or one of the only open air arenas. And I got the gig because of I kept up a relationship with a former client. And she ended up sponsoring one.
Tyler Jorgenson 24:53
Oh, that’s cool. Yeah. And so and you’ve traced trained 1000s To sell millions. I like that line. What are some of the things that you are seeing? What’s changing in the business or sales landscape here in the coming years?
Renee Hribar 25:09
That’s a great question. And it’s almost impossible for me to be objective, because I am in the midst of so many projects that people, their projects, not mine. What I see is changing, I think, at least in my own small sphere today would be others self awareness, that it doesn’t actually matter what platform you’re on, if you’re a Twitter guru, or if you have a fully formed funnel, although those are great, there’s never a bad thing. What is most important is that you know, that the other person on the side, and the person that there is another person on the other side of that sales page, that pixel and that ad campaign,
Tyler Jorgenson 25:47
I feel like we’re coming back to a stage of awareness that we’re not looking for clicks and visitors, right, we’re trying to connect with the human on the other side, maybe it’s just a bias of mine, because it’s what I I tried to teach people and try to remember myself is that you’re not just selling to clicks on Facebook, but you’re you’re making real human connections. And that should be infused into your marketing, because you’re speaking to people not to clicks, clicks, don’t buy people buy me at least yet. I mean, we’re getting to where there’s bots, that will probably do it for them. But but we’re getting there. So I’m seeing that too. So I hope and I think that’s a really positive trend that’s coming, I think the big challenge that’s going to happen is that there’s going to be people who just struggled to make that adjustment to get back into selling like a human instead of just selling formulaically or you know, robotically, but what are some cool wins that maybe some of your students have had recently?
Renee Hribar 26:42
What recently, well, just just last week, I had a client, she does tech automations. And so she has a company that she sells this training of teaching other women how to, or anybody wants to leave corporate how to do it. And then she also does it for others. And so I encouraged her to go onto LinkedIn, and go into that she was looking for some more one on one work big ticket, right. So cracking the C suite code, that’s one of the that’s one of the courses that I sell. And she took the course with me. And I said, just go on LinkedIn, and all those job offers that are like, I need a tech manager or a marketing tech manager or marketing technology. So all those different titles, and now she owns an agency and she wanted to consult, she didn’t actually want to do it herself. She had agency workers to do it for them. So I had her reach out with this phrase, are you open to contractors, or agencies? Or are you only looking for full time employees. So she did that about three or four times. And then she ended up getting into an interview with one company, they’re doing about 60 million a year, so much bigger than the average company that she was already working with. And she signed an $18,000 contract for six weeks to work, which has led her to three more contracts. Since then, with that same company and their other parts of their
Tyler Jorgenson 27:56
company. I love that I what I really love about that is that it was things that was already happening there was she didn’t have to go like, you know, find gold, a new place to mined gold. There are literally people saying, Hey, I’m looking for this type of work to be done within my company. And we have a budget for it. Right? So you didn’t have to go create an audience or create demand. I love that. All right, so we talked a little bit about lifestyle design. But to me business is nothing if it’s not helping you live the life you want to live, what is one item on your personal bucket list you’re gonna accomplish in the next 12 months?
Renee Hribar 28:31
Ah, well, I think you might know this one. And that is I want to swim with the humpback whale. That is my number one goal for my birthday coming up in this next year. And so there’s two places that I know do it by. One is Tonga, which had a recent earthquake earthquake. So I don’t think that’s available necessarily, but I don’t know how the ocean looks. And then also Dominican Republic. So I’m excited because they’re just to me, they’ve always been just magical creatures. My family used to vacation on Martha’s Vineyard in Cape Cod growing up, we always used to go whale watching every summer. And I would always see them but you know, they were like so far away. And they were you know, you only see a little bit of them. And then we went to Mexico. And I saw a close around blue whales. And now I thought I need to make this a life thing. So that’s my goal.
Tyler Jorgenson 29:19
I like that as a goal. I like it a lot. Even have a
Renee Hribar 29:21
whale mug thing. Look through the whale. Yes.
Tyler Jorgenson 29:24
Oh, there it is the ice that didn’t notice it at first. All right, Rene, where can people find you and learn more about you? Yes, my
Renee Hribar 29:31
website, Renee. rebar.com. That’s the best place that has all the places you can get. All the other things the podcast, the YouTube channel, all the all the fun stuff.
Tyler Jorgenson 29:41
I love it. Alright, my business is wherever you are listening. It is your turn to go out and do something.
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