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Intro: 00:00 From ABC NewsRadio, KIBT 1490 in Southern California,
this is BizNinja Entrepreneur Radio with your host Tyler Jorgensen.
Tyler: 00:13 Welcome out to BizNinja Entrepreneur radio. I’m your host Tyler Jorgensen. And today we get to talk with Marley Baird who normally is in the frosty white north of Canada and today in the frosty white north of Minnesota. So welcome out to the show. Thank you so much.
Marley: 00:29 Oh, thanks for having me. This is so fun.
Tyler: 00:31 So, we’re going to go through the kind of what you do and why you do, what you can teach all these wonderful listeners and entrepreneurs. But give us your backstory. Like how did you become an entrepreneur?
Marley: 00:44 Going way back. I mean, I was first a dental hygienist. I clean teeth every day. How boring. And like everyone hates going to the dentist. So it’s not, not the best place to be. But before I was a dental hygienist, I worked in radio and I worked in event management. Always loved like that really exciting environment and being creative even like working with celebrities and bestselling authors at times. Like I worked for a company that we put on conferences with bestselling authors like Gary Vaynerchuk before he was the huge Gary Vaynerchuk that he is today. So that’s pretty cool. And so I was every job that I had outside of dental. I was always doing their social media and even when I was a kid, like I’d use my dad’s video camera just for fun and make these little skit videos. Then when I went, I, you know, I got kind of tired of the inconsistency and the egos in radio and in event management.
Marley: 01:34 So I, with my tail between my legs went back to dental cause I was like, I’m just going to go back to this, figure out what I really want to do in the meantime. And it’s like, thank goodness for having that backup. But also I was in dental and again, worrying, just cleaning teeth all day. I was doing their social media and I built their website, like just for fun because it was something that I knew how to do. And so in between patients, I’m like, on my phone doing the social media. And their IT guy was like, hey, you’re pretty good at this. Can I refer you to another client of mine? And then it was referral, referral, referral, referral, which was amazing. I didn’t even have a business card or website for myself at this point. And then it just grew from there until I was at a point where I thought I was like, okay, do I go all in on this?
Marley: 02:16 Do I stay in dental? It was a pretty easy decision that I wanted to do something that was creative and so fun for me. It was just, I was also like, you can make a living doing this. This is cool. The decision was actually made for me, and this is a funny story, my husband Will, we were like two months away from getting married at the time. Had a really bad dirt biking accident. Like scraped his butt right off, like had no, but had two broken arms, fractured tailbone and like his arms, you know, how they test them. Like he couldn’t even reach his mouth. So I had to call into the dental office and say, I can’t come in. I don’t know when I can come back. And that was my moment where like he obviously can’t work because of his injuries. I couldn’t go to the dental office, which was like my consistent and regular income. So that was where I went all in on the business. We were two months away from getting married, had a wedding to pay for it had to survive. Um, and that’s how like my business really started.
Tyler: 03:08 Wow. So did he get the cast off before the wedding?
Marley: 03:11 Yes. Thank God.
Marley: 03:13 But then he went dirt biking like right before the wedding and fractured his wrist too. And I was like, you fool do not touch that dirt bike for at least a month.
Tyler: 03:20 Yeah. And it all, everything still worked out. You know, a lot of people have this journey where it starts as a side hustle or something on the side. Then there’s that moment of truth where you have to decide which one are they going to focus on because you can’t vote, be great at both of them. Right. So you started, it sounds like kind of doing websites. But your big thing now is video and helping entrepreneurs with their video. Can you tell us kind of what Marley Baird Media is so that we can kind of frame the conversation around that?
Marley: 03:51 Yeah, so we specialize in video and Youtube. What we do is we scale audiences and ROI using video on Facebook, Youtube, Instagram without the entrepreneur having to invest more than a few hours of their time. Because that’s the biggest pain point is people are like, oh, I gotta. Especially for women who like we have to put on makeup and it can be annoying to film, to come up with ideas. It’s not enough just to have a videographer and video editor. It’s like, what’s the actual content strategy around your video? So what we do is we work with entrepreneurs and influencers that we go to them and we batch film like six months of content in three days. So then the video is working for you and then the rest of it is hands off for them. So one of my examples is that I have a video as it was actually my start of Youtube that people would ask me all the time. Like my clients and my students would say, how do I do graphic design?
Marley: 04:41 And so I made a video teaching Canva, which is a free graphic design software. I didn’t even know what I was doing at the time. But I posted this video on Youtube so that when people asked, it was just like, here’s the link instead of me explaining over and over. Then a few months later, I look at it and I’m like, oh my God, this video has like thousands and thousands of views. Now today, that video has over, I think it’s, I think like just hit 100,000 views. It gets 1500 organic views per week. And then I also have a lead magnet in the description. So people are signing up for my email list. The thank you page of the lead magnet invites them to another exclusively magnet that’s in my Facebook group. So it’s like organically growing so much. And of course there is the video ad strategy that video view ads we can get for a penny per view. So imagine spending a dollar, I’m getting a hundred new eyeballs on your content. So that was a big blab, but
Tyler: 05:29 That’s right. A lot of people just getting started out to be a fire hose. Right? So let’s break that down a little bit. You created a video of something that you knew how to do. But you were sharing with someone all the time. I think almost everyone has that thing that somebody’s always calling them over and over. So you just basically said, I’m gonna make a video that way I can share with everyone. But I can just do it one time. Yeah. So you, that was like the beginning of batching. We’re solving, solving the problem once. Right. Then you say you should put that on Youtube. At the time you weren’t, you didn’t have a strategy, you’re going to rank it, but you did. Did you at the beginning even have the opt in or the lead magnet.
Marley: 06:08 I didn’t so that’s the mistake of it. But now every time I make a video I have a lead magnet in mind that I also mentioned it in the video to say click the link below to get that. It’s the next step for them. But I put in the lead magnet after, so I still do get opt ins from it. But at the time it wasn’t optimized cause I didn’t know what I was doing.
Tyler: 06:23 Well that’s okay. I’ve got a ton of videos and none of them have like links or anything in there that we’re going to talk about. one what people need to be doing. So I think we’re at the point where people don’t need to know why video anymore. But what’s your thing? Why did, why does every entrepreneur need to implement video into their marketing mix?
Marley: 06:42 I mean look at how like when you scroll through Facebook already or are you stopping to click on a blog and read a blog? Like people are much more likely to consume a video than to be reading blogs or looking at text based posts and even look at the algorithms that video content is, is valued higher and it’s going to show up in timelines first and just the impact you’re able to make the connection that we can’t be one on one. But you can see my face, you can hear my voice, you can see the enthusiasm and just you resonate with people more when you can connect with them. And even just having a video creates better conversions.
Tyler: 07:16 I think connectivity is a huge part of that. People really want, especially in today’s marketing world where everyone is now becoming a skeptic again. I think any new platform it comes on and everyone just accepts whatever’s happening and then they get burned at one time or whatever. Then that we’re in right now, especially on Facebook and stuff, people are real skeptical on marketing. And that’s okay because it just makes us be more transparent in that video, allows us to be more transparent. But personally, I don’t always, I’m not one of those guys would always has your butts in. So like, I don’t always listen to videos. Do you recommend like captions and that kind of stuff?
Marley: 07:49 Yeah. And captions actually. So getting your video transcribed and putting the transcription back on Youtube is also going to help with the search engine optimization and videos will auto play. I mean, I’m also, I love podcasts, but there’s a lot of podcasts and yours too. You Post it on Youtube. So even if I’m not listening to it, I might have it up on my screen while I’m working with something. Then video, of course you get to see the people. I like that, you know, putting a face to the voice.
Tyler: 08:16 Sure, absolutely. So like, what is step one? Let’s say, you know, someone’s just getting started. They’re figuring out their brand, their fee. They are, they, let’s say they have that figured out. They know what they’re selling, they know what they’re doing, they know their business. But they haven’t started with video.
Marley: 08:32 So first, like you said, you have the product, you know who your audience is,
Tyler: 08:35 I know what they’re doing in their business. But they haven’t applied video.
Marley: 08:39 Yeah. First like what are, what kind of videos do, does your audience want? How can you provide value? Do you get frequently asked questions? Do you have things that you want to create that polarizing content to shift your audience’s thinking? Like it doesn’t have to be how to videos. It’s thought leadership. It’s motivation. Like, look at Gary Vaynerchuk. He doesn’t teach how tos, his videos are all motivation and all thought leadership. I mean I’m looking at what does your audience want? It’s also understanding what’s your core values and messaging that you can put into that. Yes, I teach a lot of video marketing and social media tips. But I’m also wanting to impact female mission driven entrepreneurs and help them to scale their following by showing how to be raw and authentic, create powerful messages that five x, following their revenue. That’s like my underlying messaging that allows me to connect with my female audience more than just like getting in front of a camera and being a robot and teaching.
Tyler: 09:32 Right, right. Step one, that is just like making a list of some things that you could start sharing.
Marley: 09:39 Yeah. How can you provide value?
Tyler: 09:41 Yeah. I can even provide you ideas that actually have some value and they don’t have to be, like you said how to is. It can be motivational or thoughts or you know, but sometimes it can be tips. And so make a list of those types of things. Do you think that’s important? Like for me, I have a really like micro series that I do in one of my Facebook groups, right? Just share kind of like 10 minute videos and my issues, I sometimes don’t know what to talk about. But I always have ideas until it’s time to go live. Right. Until it’s time to record. So what do you recommend there? I mean my thought is making lists.
Marley: 10:10 Yeah, I definitely do that too. Like I have a bunch of lists in my phone. Oh here’s an idea for a Facebook live and you can also repurpose those. Like something you did live on Facebook, you can do it again. Kind of pre produced for Youtube and I do a lot of repurposing that. I take the Youtube video and repurpose it into like the little mini videos and things like that. But also I’m one of the big things I look at is other people in my space, like their Youtube channels. What they’re creating videos on that? I could do a similar topic, Google keyword research like that. Go say you can use Google keyword planner, which is a free software or a free tool that comes with them. Google ad words and I actually, yeah,
Tyler: 10:44 Totally crazy inside. No, you can only access that. Now if you’re actually running ads.
Marley: 10:48 So here’s the trick with that.
Tyler: 10:49 Oh there’s a trick. I like tricks
Marley: 10:51 Yeah, trick is great. You only have to run an ad for like a day. So I spend $5 like every two months until they shut me out.
Tyler: 10:58 Yeah.
Marley: 10:59 So that’s it.
Tyler: 11:00 And honestly like you should be having some that’s going, if you’re getting things going, even if it’s a dark.
Marley: 11:06 Totally. And so I do the Google keyword research to see what are people actually searching related to my niche. Because then if I see that people are searching it 10,000 times a month and there’s low competition, I have a better chance of ranking there.
Tyler: 11:18 That’s a great idea. So using the keyword planner as basically story prompts or video prompts to create videos around. I mean that’s awesome. And for me like I think in many ways. I mean your target market, you mentioned that you target women. But maybe that’s just something else. Other than that, I think I am as an entrepreneur where I think you had talked about stuff, the paralysis that I have in there. I think a lot of people I know have is that, how do you get started? What do I need to go out and buy a ton of equipment? Do I need to go buy microphones and lighting and all kinds of stuff or like what? Cause there’s that fear that you’re going to not a good enough job. Right. So what do you do? What’s the minimum threshold? What does someone need to do to get started? What do they actually do?
Marley: 12:00 Yeah. Start small. I mean, when I first started, we used my phone and I didn’t even have a tripod at the time and tripods are like 20 bucks. But we stacked it on a stack of books and my husband stood behind with a lampshade or a lamp with a no lamp shade. Like we were totally bootstrapping. And if you go back to the early videos on my Youtube channel, they’re a little embarrassing. But that was what we did. And they’re okay. We use iMovie for free. It’s not about like I need all the equipment. Start with what you have. Then as you also decide, like it’s a learning curve too. Like as you see that, okay, I do want to keep doing this and here’s what you’re learning as you’re going. And then go to Amazon. Like the lighting kit that we have that we still use is great and it was like 100 bucks and it’s collapsible. It’s easy to use a camera. You can even get, you know, the cheaper one, like the one that we have, the first one we had was $500 and we upgraded to one that was like $1,200. Start small, start with what you have.
Tyler: 12:52 Cool. So it’s totally okay to start with your phone. But then you know, as you move up and as you figure it out and start doing it consistently, invest back into it and increase that. What do you think, what are the biggest mistakes that people make when they get started on Youtube?
Marley: 13:07 So a lot of people make mistakes with like not understanding what the platforms are that they’re using. So Google owns Youtube and when I was talking about using Google keyword planner, that’s a great tool to use because you’re actually seeing how many times people are searching on Google and Youtube. So when you’re creating something for Google and Youtube, keep in mind that it’s a search engine that people are typing things into find solutions to their problems. So how can you position your video and actually with your Youtube SEO. The way you title your video title it, the way that people would search for it. So when I didn’t know what I was doing, I made a video called did you know Instagram does this? And I wanted it to be like click baity and people would be like, oh what does Instagram do? But people aren’t searching for that.
Marley: 13:48 So it’s not going to show up in search results. What people are searching for and typing in word for word how to use Canva. That video is doing great and it didn’t have a lot of competition at the time. I think it was one of the first. That’s also what boosted me at the top in that ranking. And then when you do use videos for Facebook, I’ll take my Youtube video and repurpose it for all my other platforms. Facebook is something that you’d need to have that some stopping power where it’s like it might be the click baity title. Or it might be the really quick engaging visuals right at the beginning to get people to stop and actually watch it as there scrolling.
Tyler: 14:23 Awesome. So really understanding the platform you’re on and what works on that platform and I think you already explained really those two kind of the major differences. Right. I think it’s the difference between search space and then or interruption based. Right? You got no, if people, and that’s funny, I’m now like thinking through all my videos, even interviews where I just have them titled and I’m like, oh, I’ll just titled the interview. I should go back and instead of, so this one should be titled like how to get started in video marketing. Totally, interview with
Marley: 14:50 Totally, interview with Marley Baird and then because a couple of people are searching for me. Like my videos can come up or when someone’s watching my video, your video might be in like the related search because you’ve used your name in there.
Tyler: 15:01 Very cool. I like it. I know some of the reasons I like I mentioned a couple of reasons I think people don’t get started. What are some other reasons that hold people back from getting started with Video Marketing?
Marley: 15:12 There’s three main ones and I love sharing. Like I love breaking down these objections. The first one is, I’m afraid of the camera. Like how many times have you heard someone say like, no, I can’t, like I’m shy. I’m afraid of the camera. You’re not afraid of the camera because like at Christmas time if you’re at comes in, she wants to take a family photo. You’re not like, oh my God, get that thing away from me. It’s not the camera, it’s the fear. It’s the fear of judgment of like, what are people going to think? Am I good enough? I’m like, are you afraid of stepping out of your comfort zone? But at the same time, we know how important video is for business and you’re also doing something that, I mean, if you’re doing this, you should be passionate about it. If people are gonna judge you anyway, you may as well be doing something that’s going to support you in your growth. And that is something that you love.
Tyler: 15:57 So this step one I think is really important because essentially that same decision is the same thing you have to make across your business, right? Are you going to actually market your business or are you going to sit behind the protective walls of no criticism? And hoping things workout and pretend and that’s the thing, you can’t grow. You can’t market a business and not expect some pushback and some feedback. And that’s we’ve, you know, drawing your line in the sand and really deciding who you’re serving and recognizing you’re going to turn them away. A percentage of people. I think that decision has to be made before you can grow a business in any way, especially when you make the decision to do video. Because you are becoming more vulnerable and more visible. Visible. Yeah. So I think that’s just a decision. You got to just make that commitment, right? And say, okay, I’m not afraid of the camera. I’m afraid of what people are going to say and I’m making the decision to not care about that anymore.
Marley: 16:48 And I love how you bring up the audience you’re serving. Like imagine who you’re doing this service to by not sharing your message. And there could be that one person that really needed to hear it, that you’re going to impact and change their lives. And if you’re too stuck in your own ego, you’re holding back from possibly changing someone’s life. So how does that feel?
Tyler: 17:07 Man, you had to bring an ego. It’s not people’s humility that’s keeping them back from being out there and being willing to be criticized actually your ego and your pride. That’s, it’s funny. Most people think it’s the other way around. But I think you were making at the now what’s number two.
Marley: 17:22 Okay. Number two is no time. I don’t have time to do this But what we do instead of like, oh if I had to every day and be like, oh, what kind of video am I going to put out today? Of course that would take me hours. What we recommend is batching. Like spend one entire day every month and also depending on, like how much you warm up to this and get your kind of process in place. What we do when we go out to clients is we filmed six months of content in like three days. For Myself, I film two months of content in one day for myself because I’m also scripting and doing different editing and I also post you two Youtube videos a week. It does take me a little bit more time. When you batch your content, like imagine if you had to set up your camera equipment every single day like that 10 minutes a day adds up, warming up to the camera. If you batch it and film like 10 videos in a row, then you also, you’re going faster because you’ve warmed up. When you can batch your content, you’re going to save so much time. Then also from being able to repurpose that content. So from one video, one Youtube video, we repurpose it to like 30 second teaser or as many videos, quote pictures, text based posts. You’re also saving time on how much content you’re able to create from that one video.
Tyler: 18:29 Absolutely. I love batching in all things, right? In every task batching in general is a big thing that I kind of have always been talking on. This is one of my biggest challenges. I can record a ton of content like in a couple of days. But then I get stuck in batching the editing and figuring it out and finding the next round of time to actually get it all ready and repurpose. Now, obviously this is when I should be hiring somebody like you and your team to do it. When would you say is that transition point where someone should go from doing it on their own and just getting started to hire somebody to help them?
Marley: 19:05 We transitioned pretty quickly because I think it’s important to understand the process because when you understand that you can lead it better, you’ve been through it yourself. But we transitioned it really quickly because even the three to five to 10 hours, depending on how long the video is to edit it, to process it, to do the Youtube SEO, what could I be doing it in that time? You could hire someone, I mean think of how much time, what your time is worth for you to hire someone else to take that off your plate is just so much more convenient. Then just the momentum you get from having a team. So we have a few video editors on our team and then I have VA’s that do social media, the graphics, taking the transcriptions and breaking it down into quotes. If you did that for yourself, just think of the freedom and that if you just kind of oversaw the process, have all your content created for you. You really don’t have to wait too long to get started and you can outsource that for a pretty low price too.
Tyler: 19:58 Awesome. Now I think we left off number three. What the third reason to get started this?
Marley: 20:02 Well, and you kind of brought that up about like equipment. I don’t have money or I don’t know what to do. Like I said, start small. Start with your phone. You can even start with the Webcam on your computer. Then use iMovie to edit for free. Or for Windows, it’s a movie maker, Windows Movie Maker. Filmora, which is another program I love. It’s like 59 bucks. It’s, yeah, you totally start small.
Tyler: 20:25 Yeah. What’s crazy is a lot of the cameras on our phones and computers are better than nice cameras were a couple of years ago. You know, it’s pretty amazing what we can do with the tech that we have. I posted a video the other day from those kind of like a vacation, video of a bunch of I just made on my phone and shared it with the travel agents. That sent me on the trip was and people were like, this is an amazing video. And I’m like, it’s literally just the pictures from my phone, like video background.
Marley: 20:55 There’s so many apps. Like it’s so much easier. You know those videos that have the bar on the top and the bottom that have the captions. People always ask me, like how do you make those? Yes, we use Adobe Premiere and After Effects. Like the kind of video projects that I wouldn’t recommend to people unless they’re going to take the time to learn that. But you can also use InShot, which is a free app that you can use it for free and get the same quality.
Tyler: 21:19 Yeah. That’s awesome because I think people love those little tips. Because what I think is getting people an early win, right? If someone’s just getting started in video and they want it, they want to feel like, okay, I got started. But I already looked better than I did before. It’s using what was the app InShot. Now I look like the other guys that are doing these kinds of videos, right? It kind of up levels of their game a little bit right off the bat. That momentum is so, I’m so, I’m such a big proponent of momentum, right? Keep you going, start small but build that momentum and build on successes. You know, we’ve already covered a couple of my other questions so I’m skipping over a little bit. But so we covered, yeah, like what do you? What do they need to get started? Which is just their phone, right? When is the right time to hire a pro? It sounds like as soon as you can mathematically afford it by time because then you can get back to focusing on the business and let a team like yours manage it for them. What’s something that people can do today to get that first one? What’s that like listeners are listening, they’re just getting started. What’s something they can get applied like right away?
Marley: 22:27 Repurpose your content. If you have a Facebook post, like even if it was written or if it was a picture that I did really well. What if you repurpose that into a video or vice versa? Like if you have a video that you made, repurpose that into text pics, text based posts or images. Like I do, we have the full Youtube video that might be five minutes. How many 30 second chunks can I take out of that five minute video to then create days’ worth of content? It doesn’t have to be this like, oh, I’ve got to make a video on scripted. I got, oh my gosh, just start talking. And sometimes I, I myself get really hung up on the scripting. But something that I’ve just incorporated into my routine is just like, sometimes I’ll just set up a camera or just the voice notes app on my phone and just start talking and they’ll be like, Ooh, that’s good.
Marley: 23:09 Let’s make a video on that. Because when it comes to the thought leadership or the motivation stuff, that’s where you kind of got to let it come from the inside. How to’s might be a little bit easier. That’s where I do recommend starting is with how to’s. But to get your audience to really resonate, connect with you and set you apart from the rest. Because anyone can do it how to teaching. But we want to understand like what’s your why? What’s your heart that people can connect with and be like, that’s why I want to follow them.
Tyler: 23:36 Right. I think there’s a couple of different, the one type of video you just talked about as a video that we’re seeing a lot right now. Which is almost like the mini documentary of the behind the scenes of the backstory of the entrepreneur. What they’re doing. Right. Is that, are those kinds of videos that you guys create?
Marley: 23:52 Yes, and I love those because it’s like emotional storytelling. Like when you’re scrolling through and you see something that’s just like. Those are the videos that get shared the most because they connect with people. The other thing that I would love to add to that is to get B-roll. B-Roll is like that background kind of candid footage that when you’re watching. It’s so funny, like my mother asked me the other day to make a video like that for her and she sent me a video from Cesar Milan. I was like, yeah, there’s a lot of B-roll. Like we’ll just have to kind of set that up for you. And she’s like, what are you talking about? He just talking to the camera the whole time. And I’m like, no, no, no, watch closer. If people can become mesmerized by those videos because of the emotional storytelling through those visuals.
Tyler: 24:30 Yeah, absolutely. I had a friend that became really successful as a video, a video photographer and videographer because most of what he did was focusing on the behind the scenes, the story behind the story. That’s what people actually connected to, especially the bride and groom. They didn’t, they don’t remember the groups and the crowds and this stuff. They remember getting ready that day and talking with their friends. But that comes back to that issue of being willing to be vulnerable, right? And willing, be willing to show who you are. That means, have people say, I don’t like this guy. Right? So it’s the ego again But what I think in any, in order for any business especially for an entrepreneur based like solopreneurship or small business that’s really based around that expert or that individual. In order for them to really take off, they’ve got to just say, I’ve got to show my vulnerable sides. Do you have any tips or points on that on helping people to just kind of get over that?
Marley: 25:28 Yeah, I mean we talked about think of who you’re doing this service to, by not doing that. But also remembering that your vulnerability, no matter how scary that feels, makes other people feel safe. That they’re like, oh, you feel that? You do that too? I thought I was the only one. I’m not alone. Oh my gosh. And when they have that emotional connection, they buy in. Like, I mean maybe they buy into your services. But it’s not even about buying your products or services. It’s about loving you and having that loyal fan base because they’re like, she gets me, he gets me, they understand me.
Tyler: 26:01 Awesome. Now to me, business and entrepreneurship is all about creating the lifestyle we want. Right. And you and I met, you can actually see it in the background a little bit at the world record thing. That was awesome. Being able to do cool stuff like that and being able to travel whenever we want, things like that. What is one item on your bucket list like that you’re going to do in the next 12 months, not business related lifestyle and for you coming up?
Marley: 26:30 Hmm. I mean I travel every month. We often traveled with clients, like I said to batch film them. II guess kind of a bucket list thing is happening this week that I’m about to watch my best friend give birth to a baby. That’s kind of like a weird bucket list thing. But it’s a slow thing but I have the freedom to just leave and be here for that. Maybe like a really big trip Australia, other side of the world would be really cool.
Tyler: 26:56 Cool. I encourage you to figure that out in plan because this is, what’s funny, right as we get into, as entrepreneurs. We get around these amazing companies and get to do the build their lives and a lot of times our lifestyle, our business are totally mixed and I love that. We think big in our business but like did you have big in our lifestyle too? So I’ve got a couple of big ones and wanting to travel places and do things. Now I’m going to make sure that I do a better job of incorporating video. I do really appreciate you coming out a couple of places people can go and connect with Marley and I highly encourage you to do so is obviously youtube.com/marleythirdmedia and facebook.com/marleybairdmedia. How do they spell that?
Marley: 27:36 Marlee, M A R L E Y. Baird B A I R D and media M E D I A .
Tyler: 27:42 Awesome. So thank you so much for coming out. We really appreciate you sharing all these awesome pointers to everybody. And my listeners, wherever you are today, it’s your turn to go out and do something.
Marley: 27:52 Yes
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