Tyler Jorgenson 0:01
You’re listening to biz ninja entrepreneur radio. This show was created for entrepreneurs, business owners, marketers and dreamers who want to learn from the experts of today and drastically shortcut their own success to build a business that supports their dream lifestyle. Since 2011, Tyler Jorgensen has been interviewing business thought leaders from around the world, a serial entrepreneur himself. Tyler also shares his personal insights into what’s working in business today. Welcome to biz Ninja, entrepreneur radio. Welcome out to biz ninja entrepreneur radio. I am your host, Tyler Jorgensen. And today we have Arjun ry with us who is the founder of Hello woofie.com, which is a really cool platform all about helping businesses who may be underdogs, and I’m gonna let him tell you more about the product, and what it does and his entrepreneurial journey. We’re gonna uncover that as we go. Welcome back to the show, Arjun, how you doing?
Arjun Rai 1:03
I’m doing fabulous. And this is the power of clubhouse. If you guys have listeners out there, if you haven’t tried out clubhouse, join clubhouse calm, I am not being paid to do this, right. And Tyler is not being paid to do this either. We love clubhouse, because this is how you meet some of the most famous entrepreneurs, the famous investors, and through empathy, if you’re really, really genuine, and you’re adding value, people want to connect with you. And this is how Tyler and I mean, he asked me to come on his show. So Tyler’s been such an honor.
Tyler Jorgenson 1:28
Yeah, absolutely. So really grateful for you coming out. Because you’ve been an entrepreneur for a long time, when was the first time you realize that you were an entrepreneur,
Arjun Rai 1:36
a seven, or eight, or maybe six, I can remember. I was driving my parents insane with selling literally everything in the house for a quarter, I was very obsessed with the quarter. And I remember moving out of Colorado, and my mom was like, we need to get rid of this furniture instead of like putting a garage sale and things like nature, because we had like a, we were in a tall building without apartments. And there was no sense of a garage. So we just, we were gonna throw it out. And we happen to be facing a very, very busy road. It wasn’t a highway, but it was kind of like a highway. And I had this giant sign which was maybe like three feet by three feet and said, Everything must go 25 cents. And literally, we had people coming up the staircase. And the movers were trying to go down the staircase and they were getting blocked because there were more people coming up than they were going out. And it was said 25 cents. So literally things were like people coming by and looking at the stuff as people will try and get out. Or the movers are trying to get out. My mom was coming back with Chinese food and she saw the signs. She was like what the heck is going on?
Unknown Speaker 2:29
She took it down.
Arjun Rai 2:30
I did the same thing. When I was in India, we had an Indian wedding. And you know, as I don’t know if you’ve ever been to an Indian wedding, but there are a lot of flowers, like you could go through like five flower shops worth a flower. And so I was like, why are we wasting these flowers after the wedding. So I took a lot of them made garlands, almost like a Hawaiian, you know, necklace. And I started selling them for a quarter at my grandmother’s key. Now mind you, I’m in India, so the currency doesn’t make any sense selling something for a quarter. But I had a sign that said a quarter 25 cents on the street. So that’s I’ve always been trying to sell something or the other and try to you know, make make something and just, you know, make something out of nothing. And that kind of led to my first company, my second company and being frugal and being you know, resourceful. And I think we can talk about that later in the show. But you know, you got to start early. That’s the that’s the one thing that I’ve learned.
Tyler Jorgenson 3:12
Yeah, I think there is a type of entrepreneur that early 567 years old, they just figured out some kind of little hustle, right? Mine was flowers as well, like, I would pick flowers and sell them to the local neighborhood, old lady, right. And they were usually flowers I picked from her front yard, but then I turned them into a bouquet and I’d go and sell them to her. And but I mean, you know, that’s being resourceful. Right? And that’s being scrappy, if you will, how did you turn that into like your first business? What was the first thing that you did, that wasn’t just a little side hustle, but it was actually your first business.
Arjun Rai 3:47
I was going through, you know, as many people as I could find and reach out to them through cold email, I went through the Forbes 400 list, there was something called a Google phone book back in the day. So I was like, let me see if I can reach these billionaires who, you know, have their phone numbers on, you know, on the public records. And I started calling a couple of them. And some of them actually picked up the phone or they made it and then they relayed My message to the person itself. So I’ve always found myself in a position where I was like, I want to reach out to someone and nothing’s gonna hold me back. I want to get their advice. I want to get their mentorship, I want to get their resources and their connections. So I started that at 16 1617 or so at a company with a couple of other teenagers. But the second company that I did was an agency, a social media agency. I literally started it because I needed to quote unquote, make it in New York and pay the bills. So I mean, I was living off like $1,000 a month and 700 went to his rent 25 for utilities, and the rest was food and subways. You can only imagine how scrappy I had to be in order to make that go a long way. But through the agency, I learned that not only me, but other startups, other founders other influencers were struggling even more so to kind of make, you know, make ends meet. And they didn’t have the resources. They didn’t have to know how and you know, to be honest, you could have picked up a book and gone to a YouTube channel and things of that nature but they weren’t to hire me to kind of do the work for them, which is the, you know, the kind of the agency model. And so one thing led to the other end up being my second, the third company because of that raised venture capital. And then what we’re doing today is a very similar mindset is how can I take everything I’ve learned, put it into an AI driven system, and then allow allow that to impact not just a couple of lives, but millions of lives? 10s of millions of lives around the world? For underdogs?
Tyler Jorgenson 5:22
Yeah. And so there’s there’s a couple things I want to make sure we unpack and this is a right way, right time for us to get into really what is Hello woofie? And who does it serve? And how does it help people but before we do that, what I think is fascinating is a lot of people get stuck in the place where you started, which is like, okay, they move from like, I have a need. I started an agency, but you kept thinking bigger, right? Like how do I scale? How do I go big? How do I serve more people? And I think that’s a fascinating mindset thing that really represents what I would consider the difference between a business owner and an entrepreneur. Right? Like you know, you’re you continue to innovate, continue to think bigger. Talk to us, Arjun, what is Hello woofie who does it serve? Absolutely. So
Arjun Rai 6:02
hello, Wolfie in my as a slogan, I like to say smart marketing for underdogs, aka small businesses, people who are listening in today, people like you people like me, who you know, who just gets our getting started. They need the resources, they need to know how they need to figure out what is working and how to emulate that the next time around, right. So typically, social media platforms, they tend to look very old school very clunky, right. And I’m just going to give you an example here on the screen share a lot of the tools, they tend to look like this. And of course, we have respect for all of our competitors. What do you for the viewers who are listening who are listening in this is a very clunky, old school oversimplifies solution, which doesn’t tell you that was the worst that did well, the emojis, the hashtags, the images, what actually did well, so you can you know, utilize your resources better the next time you have to come up with a content, right? But you’d expect that to be true that came with those capabilities existing in enterprise solutions. But guess what? A solution like this, again, we have a lot of respect for our competitors in the enterprise solutions, makes you feel like you need a PhD in marketing to understand how do you take any of the data, very little sciences. So there’s very little data science, a lot of bar charts, a lot of tech clouds, a lot of you know, pie charts and things of that nature, but you have no idea. What part do you take to craft the perfect message. And by the way, Tyler, this is gonna cost you half a million dollars at the minimum a year to be able to, you know, create something. So we were like, why can’t we build something that is artistic, that is beautiful, and intelligent for the price of a cup of coffee. So for $4.08 everything we’re about to talk about today, you can do for social media marketing, you can do it for blogging, and we’ve been working with Amazon to build smart speaker marketing, which is very timely, you can now schedule content directly into the living rooms of your customers. So just as an example, if I want to type in Hauer here, right, it’ll automatically complete the sentence for me. And for viewers who are or for listeners who aren’t able to see as I’m typing, it’s completing the words for me. So I love and I’m just typing lol V is automatically completing the word love for me and then suggesting you after that, I’m going to type in an my coffee, I’m just going to type in CLF. And it’s going to complete the word for me. But below, guess what’s happening in real time. It’s giving me recommendations for emoji. So it recommended the coffee emoji. It recommended the heart emoji with the smiley face. But why are we doing this? You know, people are probably thinking like, You’re insane. Why are Modi so important? Well, here’s why 58% uplift in engagement 64% uplift in purchase intent, according to the Adobe emoji trend report, which came up in July of 2019. So what did we do? we’ve mapped the entire English language to literally figure out which words which emojis which hashtags, which other emojis based on those hashtags, and words tend to be used with one another, so that we can give you the capability to make the perfect recommendations in real time. And we went one step further, we were like, Why can we show you which ones are being used right now. So you can make a data driven solution. And if you click the purple dot, will even figure out the perfect images for you that are royalty free so you don’t get in trouble. So this was the kind of capability that I wanted to provide a small business owner for the price of a cup of coffee so that they can compete, literally compete effectively with unlimited marketing budgets. Because before this, you couldn’t have done that.
Tyler Jorgenson 9:06
So amazing. And for anybody, like the number of small business owners that I talked to social media absolutely stresses them out. And it’s because it’s not just we’ll do a post, right? It’s, well, What image do I post? Well, what caption do I write? Do I need to use an emoji? Do I write one sentence? Do I do a paragraph? You know, who do I tag? Like, there’s so many variables and hashtags and all these things, that to someone who works in social media, it may not seem overwhelming, but to someone who’s just trying to run their day to day business but knows they need to do posting, it can be really, really daunting. And that’s really it sounds like that’s the main thing you’re trying to solve
Arjun Rai 9:43
100% to 1,000% it’s for people who literally do not have certifications or you know, a degree in social media marketing. It’s you’re absolutely correct. What do we help? What do we do for the small businesses who are baristas nail shops a lot, you know, nail shop owners or you know, coffee shop owners. coaches, you know, this, you know, dry cleaners. This isn’t their expertise, but they know the benefits and the power of digital marketing, especially doing COVID. When people are looking to you know, they’re buying more smart speakers, they’re, you know, going online. You know, retail stores are closed digital marketing, where would have been in five years, you have to be there today. And in fact, you should have been there a week ago.
Tyler Jorgenson 10:19
Yeah. And I think that kind of balance of time is really fascinating. I feel like there’s a the heavy thing that’s happened in 2020. And coming into 2021 really made a requirement for people that they couldn’t stay outdated any longer, that like this art, they should have been doing this already. But it was you can’t pretend you can’t ignore it anymore. It’s so much more important. I tell this story a lot like we work with physical product brands. And five years ago, when if we were like trying to get a supplement into GNC, the buyer at GNC would say, Well, how much are they spending on television ads? Now they ask, Well, what is their Instagram look like? And like the change of what of what is important, even to other mind says, well, it’s a mindset. It’s also the fact that what they’ve learned is that people will be in a retail store, and they’ll see a new product. And the first thing they do is check the Instagram to see if the brand looks credible. Yep. And if they look real. So as you got started with Hello, woofie. What was the first major hurdle that you had to overcome? And how did you overcome it?
Arjun Rai 11:20
Well, funding has always been an interesting part of every entrepreneurs life, right? So we started with a couple $1,000, we built an MVP, we hired a team off of Upwork. And we got the MVP built, we got 10,000 downloads, and we raise a small check from one of Peter Thiel scout ventures, 1517. And then we’re like, here’s the demo, you know, here’s the product, you end up building it even better, we got about $10,000. And then we were like, okay, the feedback is coming in. They want a desktop version. So they didn’t care about the on the go solution for social media management, we thought that was going to be true, but obviously the customer’s always right. So we then got into an accelerator program, we raised about 100 k from them, we raised another 100 k from 1517. And very quickly, we figured out if he had made a series of bad hires, from people who had recommended these individuals, and we had trusted them, and we made a series of bad hires. So by the end of that, and these are technical hires, so obviously very costly, especially in the in New York, or in the US. So we ended up coming down to, you know, through marketing, expenses, and rent and all this stuff, we ended up having about $12,000 left in the bank. So the beginning of 2018, middle of 2018, or beginning of 2018. And, unfortunately, had to let go of my co founder at the same time, our CTO, someone who else was was brought in to help us on the tech side, they, you know, they just it wasn’t working out and my co founder are definitely friends again today. It’s good. But yeah, life’s life’s too short to hold, you know, hold crutches for sure. I
Unknown Speaker 12:46
agree. But then, you know, I
Arjun Rai 12:48
was about $12,000, with maybe three months or burn. And I told my investors and they said, you know, you can shut the company down, we’ll do it, we’ll invest in the next thing. Let’s, you know, what are you working on next? And I was like, No, I’m gonna make this work. And no matter what. So long story short, I found a second job, I put in 170 k into the company, mostly on credit cards, which definitely helps to have a lot of credit cards, while your credit scores, your credit score is good. Because that ended up allowing me to rebuild a company from scratch the product from scratch the way should have been built in the first place. And I was working, you know, five o’clock in the morning through eight o’clock, you know, on the company. Then I was doing my second job. And then the evenings from seven to midnight, because our our teams were International. We ended up launching towards the end of 2019 and December to the public, we relaunched. And just before that my mom ended up passing away in September, there was a TV show that had, you know, rejected us if you know, and then they called us back and they said, hey, we’ve got a couple more spots on the TV show. Would you like to fly out to California to film it? And they said, this was literally days after my mom had passed away. And I was like, What is the universe telling me because I’m very spiritual. I believe in the law of attraction, the secret by Rhonda Byrne great book, by the way for entrepreneurs. I was like, What is the universe telling me So long story short, flocked to California and the winning second place in the show, we’re launching in December, we ended up doing 600,000 just below $600,000. In equity crowdfunding last year, we did little over $200,000 in revenue, we grew 21,000%. We did 22 million API calls last year, and we served nearly 8000 small businesses around the world. So it was a miracle to say the least. And we continued growing I mean, clubhouse has been great, we just soft circle, about 275 you know, $300,000 in capital, all you know, small pieces of it are coming in into our bank accounts very soon and and plus is now our third highest source of organic revenue. Like it’s been a miracle after miracle so long as you keep your head in the game.
Tyler Jorgenson 14:39
That was a phenomenal story with a lot of data points that I won’t remember. But the ones I will remember are that you’re serving over 8000 customers now. Because to me, like any business, raising capital, cool, right? Even crowdfunding shows some kind of a promise of the business but the real metric of success. all businesses are the target, I’d like is the customer wanting the product? Right? Yeah, there’s been a lot of businesses that could raise investment capital that could raise all kinds of things, but couldn’t make it work. And it sounds like you’re turning the big part of what you’re doing is really getting usage and getting utilization up, which is amazing. the
Arjun Rai 15:18
customer’s always right. And if you’re able to build a company, right alongside the customer, because in our case, and our customers are investing $100, you know, at a time or, you know, one customer put in $10,000, into the company, he believed in our vision so much, it said the mission is completely different than if he feels more genuine. Our mission is to build the biggest company in the world helping the smallest, well, why don’t we let the smallest businesses who are customers also own a piece of our company as we scale. And you can only imagine the generational wealth we can create with them, as we’re building the biggest company, you know, they can pass it down to their other, you know, other descendants other generations as well. It’s a completely different way, this goes beyond building a B Corp this because beyond a benefit corporation, this is this is much, much bigger. And I’m really grateful for equity crowdfunding to allow that.
Tyler Jorgenson 16:02
Yeah, so maybe explain to the audience a little bit about the difference between crowdfunding like a normal Kickstarter, yeah, where you get, you know, usually on a traditional Kickstarter, you’re putting money in and you’re getting a premium bundle of whatever something is maybe, you know, extra month services or whatever. But in equity crowdfunding, walk us through your guyses model and what you’re doing.
Arjun Rai 16:22
Yeah, so I’ll screen share my computer again. So very simply, crowdfunding, it means that you’re putting a couple of dollars into a product that you want to receive, you know, a couple of months down the road. Ideally, it’s, you know, sometimes it might be delayed sometimes might come in early, but you’re believing in a mission, you believe in the team, and you just want a great deal on the product. And that’s it, you don’t own the company. I mean, there’s some examples of companies that have raised a lot of money, they have a lot of believers in their product, and they sold for billions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars in the customers never benefited. Well, then what if I can tell you you can benefit in getting the product early for a discount, plus, you can own equity, or at least at least have the promise to own equity and shares in the company. And so as the company scales because of you and your dollars at work, then what if you know, the accident, and you can make a multiple out that as well. So just to give you an example, last year, we did two campaigns, and we raised $564,244, on Republic, and this year, I mean, this in the last couple of weeks, we’ve been able to raise $33,000. And we already have commitments to raise another, you know, 25 to 50 k here, and there’ll be no investors are going to be putting it in the campaign. That means that the campaign is getting it looks better, because, you know, obviously, we’re getting usage from our customers, potential investors are looking at it. But it makes work. Like I said, before we can build a company right alongside our customers. And as we scale, the underdogs, the small businesses scale, you know, their investment as well. So I highly recommend,
Tyler Jorgenson 17:46
yeah, so so these are convertible notes, right? So it’s not your when you put 100 bucks on one of these, you’re not receiving shares or something right away, right?
Arjun Rai 17:54
There’s a Yeah, in the first case, there was a safe and the current campaign that we’re doing, it’s a convertible note, but you’re right, it’s a promise to shares. And then depending on liquidation, if we sold the company, if we IPO or if there’s a change of management, those triggers will occur. But you know, this is kind of going that just
Tyler Jorgenson 18:09
makes it a lot easier. That just makes it a lot easier for the like how investments work and shares and all those things to say, hey, it’s a promise of shares, but and that’s triggered at a at a later date. So keep selling or simple. Very cool. Yep. So let’s kind of unpack a little bit about where you are now and who you’re serving. So we’ve talked a little bit about like you’re serving the local smaller business that doesn’t have big budgets for marketing, but knows that they need to do the basics, right? You guys are helping them do social media posts, blog posts, what other types of things are you helping them accomplish?
Arjun Rai 18:40
Well, the other thing we also built is a Google Chrome extension. And the Google Chrome extension not only allows you to schedule and add content from anywhere on the internet, so if you find yourself on, you know your website with your blog, or if you go to the New York Times, and you’d like an article there, there’s no need to come back to Hollywood to schedule it and add it to your library, just hit the Google Chrome extension. And you can do it right there and schedule it and be done with it. But the other benefit of the Chrome extension is that you can literally type anywhere on the internet, in any input field. So you can think about the total addressable market of an input field, Evernote, twitter, facebook medium, you can literally autocomplete you know entire sentences, entire words, and then double click to search for the right emoji, which again, statistically do does really well for driving engagement, right. And we were like, We need to expand beyond just social and blogging because those are industries that have been around for a very long time, but 82% growth in smart speakers, specifically Alexa devices, we were like, Why can we turn these devices as an echo.in? My hand or the echo show, which is also here as a touchscreen or fire TV? Why are the biggest companies only able to schedule or broadcast to those devices? Right, right. Why is there a monopoly? What What about the small businesses? So for the last six months, we’ve been building something called the smart speaker scheduler, with the help of Amazon, the Alexa division that allows you to literally schedule content directly into the list. living rooms of your customers. If you can see here, this is a mock up of what that looks like, essentially, you’ll be able to see, you know, the home speaker, you know, the home speaker on the front, you’re seeing the Alexa devices around and you can schedule video, audio and text to audio content directly to those customers. It’s allowing you to scale I mean, like never before, every single day, here’s an example of a video I you know, we made on our platform, you can see I’m going to be scheduling a Oprah Winfrey video. And within five seconds, I’m going to have go to my mfr TV and have a schedule the video right there. And you could have you could be like, you know, this is the Tyler you know, the tip of the day. And to my right, if you look at this as the tip of the day, look inwards, and then you can click right there using the remote and then go to Tyler’s website, or the web, you know, the webinar link or sign up to your newsletter, whatever you need right on the TV for $4.08 a month.
Tyler Jorgenson 20:49
Arjun Rai 20:50
So now you and I can broadcast, rice, podcasts, whatever we want. And you can run campaigns using the same design you saw earlier for inside Hello, Wolfie. Yeah,
Tyler Jorgenson 20:59
cuz I mean, we’ve planned on doing that with the show for a long time. And we just never got it done. Because it’s complicated,
Unknown Speaker 21:04
right? Yeah. Well, here we go.
Tyler Jorgenson 21:06
Yeah. gotta figure it out. I have just so the audience knows, before we even got scheduled to be on the call. I did buy an annual Hello, whoopee
Unknown Speaker 21:17
Tyler Jorgenson 21:18
right there. Yeah, whatever it’s called. Because I love the concept. And even though I haven’t used it yet, I know our team eventually will. And and I love supporting small businesses and their growth. And you guys are very quickly not going to be considered a small business, you’re already you’re already starting to get towards the medium size of things. Yep. That’s amazing. And congratulations on that. And I know you’ve got big things coming, which is even cooler. What would you say to you know, someone who’s at the early days of their business, you’ve mentioned some things along the way. But like, when people get stuck, like, so I’m going to address it kind of couch it a little bit. You have not only saved this business once from almost closing, but you have also done and and moved on to other businesses, right? So there’s a time when you need to dig in and make it work. And there’s a time that you need to just close the doors and move forward. How do you separate the two,
Arjun Rai 22:10
I’ve personally felt compelled that this business had to exist for small businesses, for other startups for other founders, especially at the level that I was at. And I’m literally no different than you know, I’m not that much different. I’m not like ascending like this isn’t a spiritual lesson. I believe that small businesses should have the ability to compete effectively against the biggest companies in the world, not because the biggest companies have more resources, but more, you know, marketing personnel. But you know, at the end of the day, the person who can storytel can captivate an audience should be the winner at the end of the day, but in small businesses tend to do the best and except they don’t have the resources to be able to compete. So if I can level the playing field, that was a calling I had, you know, two, three years ago, I was like, I need to build us to scale and no matter what came at me, you know, from a financial perspective, from an emotional perspective, from a economic perspective, what not, so long as you believe in some idea, I believe that the law of attraction does work out for you. Everything happens for a reason. And like Steve Jobs said, don’t connect the dots looking forward, connect the dots. Looking back, there are so many people that came into my life that made no sense whatsoever at the moment. But thinking back, one person knew someone else, someone made an introduction, someone gave me resources, someone wrote me a check, just blindly wrote me a check, because she believed in me, like that’s, it’s just things work out for the right reasons at the end of the day. And so I would say keep moving, keep moving forward, if you have a strong conviction, a sense of conviction that this needs to exist. And if you’re kind of doing it as a side hustle, I have a slight problem with the term side hustle, it means you don’t have conviction, that you’re doing it as a passive income, you’re doing it just because you have extra capital to deploy. But if you’re not obsessed with the business and the people you’re looking to serve, then it’s just a hustle. And you know, it will just fade away, you know, as soon as something, you know, comes along the way and that, you know, kind of flips on its head.
Tyler Jorgenson 24:01
Yeah. So, I love that. Okay, as we get towards the end here, I want you to give a few drop a few more tips for those who are trying to ascend and trying to get that momentum going in their business. On a Sunday. Yeah, no, hey, don’t, don’t be shy about it. It’s okay. We got to be able to help people that are behind us and reach towards those in front of us and reach side to side sometimes, it’s not a status thing.
Arjun Rai 24:25
But just on that point, you know, on the point of like site to site right or whatnot. We actually partner with our biggest competitor on planet Earth. 18 million social media professionals named Hootsuite. I’m sure a lot of your viewers and listeners will know about Hootsuite. I reached out to Ryan, I was like, hey, a lot of your customers want to use our platform on top of your platform. Why do we integrate? And so we’re literally the only competitive co creating partner in their app store serving 18 million potential 18 million new customers with our platform. And that’s conventional wisdom and and, you know, business schools will not telling you to do that. How do you co create, right? And we’ve been called as we’ve been talking about joint ventures and whatnot. But how do you co create with your competitors? It’s a very different mindset. It’s a non zero sum mindset. And I encourage people to think about it because they could be your biggest channel partners and who knows, potentially an acquire acquisition?
Tyler Jorgenson 25:17
I’m a big believer of avoiding zero sum mindset. What are like two or three business like books that you think every entrepreneur should read?
Arjun Rai 25:25
Oh, Grant cardones. You know, the closer Survival Guide to sales. I’ve read that book. So many times, I actually had the privilege of meeting grant rep backstage as I was coming up, he was going down, stay down on a TV set, because we had mentioned we were on a TV show, and he was going to be on the next episode after we after he filmed ours. And I told him, I love your book, I used the all of your tactics into and we raised, you know, hundreds of 1000s of dollars as a result of it. He was like he was he pointed to his camera guy. He was like filming right now. And so he interviewed me and he asked me like, what are some of the tips and tricks I highly recommend that book. The other book, I recommend, of course, you know, we’re both obsessed with Russell Brunson, his expert secrets and Traffic Secrets specifically, because one talks about the mindset and the other talks about tactics you can employ to generate a lot more capital or a lot more sales by using sales funnels. Now, of course, we can, I mean, I can recommend Click Funnels. But if you can’t afford Click Funnels, there are themes you could be using on an on themeforest or Envato. You could have a Fiverr developer for 2550 $100 at a time, develop the sales funnel for you put some Facebook pixels on it for some paid advertising behind it runs on Facebook, you know, look alike audiences This is like I’m going through a lot of things that I had to learn over months, very quickly. But that’s how you generate wealth. We did $200 and we did build a $200 sales funnel, we generate over $140,000 in sales off of it. So you can do it and we haven’t crossed sold or up sold yet. You can only imagine what we could have done if he did that. So just start just are
Tyler Jorgenson 26:51
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