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Tyler Jorgenson 0:01
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This show was created for entrepreneurs, business owners, marketers and dreamers who want to learn from the experts of today and drastically shortcut their own success to build a business that supports their dream lifestyle. Since 2011, Tyler Jorgensen has been interviewing business thought leaders from around the world a serial entrepreneur himself. Tyler also shares his personal insights into what’s working in business today. Welcome to biz Ninja, entrepreneur radio. All right, welcome out to biz ninja entrepreneur radio. I am your host Tyler Jorgensen. And today I love it when I get to talk to friends of mine and so today we get to have Blake nubar who is a a friend, a colleague, a fellow top 30 clickfunnels designer, and an overall internet marketing beast. Welcome to the show. Blake,
Unknown Speaker 1:00
Tyler, thanks for having me, man. The pleasure is all mine to be here. What was so cool is when we first
Tyler Jorgenson 1:05
met, I think clickfunnels was still kind of a new part of what we were all doing in our business. You’ve been an entrepreneur for a long time. Let’s start at the very beginning. When did you first realize that you were an entrepreneur? Yeah,
Blake Nubar 1:18
Funny enough, man. If you want to bring back like the nurturing phase, I was probably really young. I was like, back when I was like, I mean, I had my first like, quote unquote, venture when I was like eight years old selling like baseball cards out of like, at school, and it was nuts. And that just led to the next thing. I did a lemonade stand right after that. I remember like, I made like, no money, but my parents like bought lemonade from me. So I knew early on that I had this like entrepreneurial spirit inside of me, and it just kind of like rolled over into bigger things. I did do the nine to five stuff as well. And there’s stories for that, but it started really early and I kind of I always had that itch until I full blown went into it when I was a little older. Awesome. And I think most entrepreneurs have at least something they were they did the paper route or the lawn mowers. Or the lemonade stand, right all and there was always because there was never a I can’t afford it. It was always like, Well, what do I need to do to make this work? How can I make it better? Right? So
Tyler Jorgenson 2:10
you you did the college route, right? You You did that sort of thing. You got a nine to five. What was the first foray into entrepreneurship as an adult?
Unknown Speaker 2:17
Yeah, so I was actually I was out in private sales in the college level, we were studying for an exam. And this is one of those stories like I never even talked about until recently, my business partner and I were studying for an exam and, you know, college students, anyone in school can relate right? You just get all this information and you slam it in your head and you I urge you to hope to get a good grade on the test of the exam. And I remember I’m sitting there with him and we’re like drinking and stuff. And we’re like, Man, this sucks. This is like the this is the worst way to like learn information. So we decided we had this idea we said, You know what, what if we transformed all this information into visual learning, and we took like this crazy study guide full of all this text, and we transformed every idea every concept everything into mnemonic devices and video And all these cool visual cues to help you are in the stuff. And we put a website up on WordPress at the time. And we started selling these things for $5. Well, we were done with this product. And we were like, okay, we didn’t know anything about marketing, right? I had no idea what marketing was, when we I bought this gorilla suit. And I bought this gorilla suit. And I got in this gorilla suit. And we’re like, Okay, how can we get in front of people. So we snuck into a classroom at my college 3000 people in the class, and we snuck in there and we ran to the front of the room with a boombox and a gorilla suit. And I did my first ever like marketing stunt to sell these busy guides to the students in the class. And we’re done. We run out and I go to the bar and we start drinking more because we’re, you know, college kids. And we made our first sale for $5. And we went crazy. And after that, we made another sale for $5. And that entire night we made like $800 and the entire semester as I’m on campus, walk in the class, getting coffee, whatever it is, sales just kept coming in and by the end To this semester, we made like $5,000 in sales, and that is when my real entrepreneurial career probably kicked off was back at university.
Tyler Jorgenson 4:08
I love that for so many reasons. There’s two main reasons that I really like one, you you solve the real problem, right? It wasn’t just like, you made up something dumb and tried to schlep it, right, you sell the real problem. And two, you weren’t afraid to like get crazy in marketing it. You Hi. So that’s really hard. You know, some entrepreneurs are not extroverts, right. They’re a little they’re shy or they’re worried about chargeback. Honestly, it’s one of the things I think holds entrepreneurs back a lot is that anxiety of like, how am I gonna be perceived? That doesn’t seem like an issue that you have. So like, what advice do you have about for people about just putting themselves out there? Because that’s a lot of what you do.
Unknown Speaker 4:45
Yeah, yeah. So honestly, it’s gonna suck in the beginning. And I’m just gonna keep it real with you. Right? Like, if anyone tells you that they’re gonna go into something brand new and and they don’t have anything that affects them. I just think you’re full of it to an extent right. Like you’re in Your skin gets thicker as you take more punches. And my piece of advice is, you just you start adapting to it. Look, I’d be lying to you, if I told you that, like, if when I first got started, like throwing myself out there or people commenting the hate on my ads or whatever it is, I’d be lying. If I said it didn’t affect me it does. I took it personal at first because I’m human. And that’s just what it is. And then you start realizing like, you know what, big deal. And as you start doing the same thing over and over and over again, it starts affecting us to a point where it doesn’t affect you at all. You just don’t even care. you brush it off, and you move on to the next thing. So anyone out there that is like, Man, I’m afraid to put myself out there. I’m nervous. That’s okay. It’s supposed to feel like that. All right, that’s a normal feeling at first, but you got to remember that what you’re working on. There’s people that love and need your products and services and you can’t let the haters pull you down to their level. Because it’s a lot easier to do that than to raise up to your level. And I implore everyone out there that like, if you’re out there, you’re like, man, I don’t know about that. put yourself out there. I promise you you’ll come back in six months you’ll be a beast.
Tyler Jorgenson 5:58
So I love that you called it the rock tumbler, right? Because you’ve got to go through that refining process. Everyone wants to be the Polish gem at the end, but doesn’t want to go through the journey. And then I really like how you talked about essentially, the more you do it, the easier it gets, right? So you can’t expect to be super resilient if you’ve never gone through any challenges. And what I think for me, one of the biggest things I’ve noticed is certainty in my message. If I have confidence in what I’m pitching, I can handle pushback because I’m confident, like one sign to look at if you’re an entrepreneur, and you’re struggling to be confident in your message. Ask yourself if you really believe in the product, and if you do, then get resilient and put yourself out there and if you don’t make it better, right, so we met in Boise, Idaho, I think that was the first time that we met was at the clickfunnels Top 30 Designer. If we met with that now I feel bad but I’m pretty darn sure that was the first time and since then you’ve you’ve sold I think more templates than anybody else in the marketplace are by far one of the top designers out there you put me to shame I I don’t even really consider myself an amazing designer. I’m a strategist and a builder, but not a designer. How do you bridge that? Right? So you’ve done a lot in the clickfunnels world and just in funnel building in general, what are some major things that you’ve learned from that, that everyone should be applying into their business? Like? What are some commonalities of successful funnels?
Unknown Speaker 7:19
I learned early on that it’s not just Well, let me take that back. I did not learn early on that. It’s not just the funnel, right? The funnel is just a piece of it. And I think you have to kind of learn that by going through that rock tumbler, right? Like, yeah, you’re brought into probably the funnel ecosystem where it’s the funnel is the end all be all. And yes, you do need a funnel. Don’t get me wrong, but the funnel is not the end all be all you in order to have success online. Honestly, it starts with the ability to solve a major problem, right? A massive, massive problem, like yeah, you can be another. God knows we need another payment gateway app or something that just doesn’t solve anything. But it’s honestly it’s doing a lot of the stuff that no one wants to do. And there’s a lot of that stock market research stuff. I think, everyone It kind of bypasses because let’s be honest, it’s probably boring, right? It’s not the sexy stuff. It’s not the funnel, it’s not building the product. It’s not like presenting it to the world. It’s like get on your computer and see what your competitors are doing. So I learned the hard way that I started at the funnel, right? I started like building funnels and doing all this stuff. And then I realized I was never making any money. So I kind of brought it back to the basics where I started researching stuff, and everyone out there anyone listening, if your funnels aren’t working, you’re not finding success, a lot of it is because perhaps that your research, what you’re doing is not predicated off sound research. And again, I hate to even like dawn on it. But that’s really what you need to be doing. Once you understand your market and you really can solve a problem, then you can start focusing on the message and the offer. But even in that order, you need to create a compelling message that is able to articulate your new opportunity, your brand new gadget, whatever it is that you’re doing that actually solves that problem. And then when you’re able to actually create that message and that offer fulfills on it. You can wrap all that into a Beautiful funnel. Now, you’ll hear a lot of people tell you that, you know, ugly funnel sell. And yeah, sure, to an extent, right? Like, do people really care about the design? Like, is it gonna like make or break? You know, because at the end of the day, if you have an offer, right, if you solve a problem, and you’re able to, like explain that to someone, and they want that thing, I mean, it doesn’t matter if it’s a one page thing, or if it’s this beautiful thing. But at the end of the day, if you have a beautifully designed funnel, and you do it right, you’re able to articulate information better. And when I say beautifully designed, I mean, take that in the context of the market that you’re going after. If I’m selling something to like the great outdoors market, I’m not going to have this like Apple esque techie field, I’m going to have something that resonates with my market. And if you’re able to design in a language that your market understands, you’re able to communicate information better and people understand that faster and they can make decisions. So the takeaway from all this is a you need to start with the market. What is the market you’re after? Who are the people inside that market you want to go after? What’s the message you’re going to create to get in front of them, what’s the offer that’s going to fulfill and what’s the funnel you’re going to create to kind of like, embody everything that’s in there. Once you’re able to do that, you can then launch it. And after you launch it, and it works out, you can turn it into an evergreen thing. And that’s what comes to these two comma club awards that you see on Tyler’s walls that you see on my wall right here that’s kind of shattered in like 10 pieces. But that’s kind of what it is. So a don’t start at the funnel, right? Don’t start going in and building funnels, right. It’s fun as it is. And as sexy as that sounds, it’s not the right way to do it, you first have to get back to the basics and understand your market. And then when you do that, you can go through this process that I just kind of like explained, and there’s a good chance you’re gonna have success with it.
Tyler Jorgenson 10:40
It’s fascinating to me, because marketing is really a science, right? Like you’ve got to do your research. First you create a hypothesis, then you test it, but so many times people want to skip the scientific process. They just want to say well, I bought a pretty template. I put my offer in there, and I’m not a millionaire yet. And it boggles my mind because they’re scared. thing all the parts of it that make it interesting if it was that easy that you could just copy somebody else’s funnel and turn on a basic Facebook ad, we wouldn’t have so many books and gurus and mentors and and most of us that have built hundreds of funnels wouldn’t be able to talk about the four or five successful ones because they’d all be big right, but exactly right. So let’s go through what was your first successful offer like that you did after college? Or like, or just even in funnels? Like what what was your Yeah, like when
Unknown Speaker 11:28
so first big win was actually a big loss, but it was a big way if that makes sense. Um, so after college, I kind of thought, you know, it’s when I first got the taste of launching a successful digital products business, but, you know, I kind of like lost the world of marketing for an extent. I didn’t know what funnels were they weren’t really around mainstream, but I was back in college. But I started working for a nine to five I was working for a fitness company, and my job was we were working on an amazing certification. We’re teaching people how to become personal trainers for like a gym and we had a certification. We’re doing This amazing product. And I would say more of my background resides in product development. And we’re building you know, my colleague and I were building this amazing like certification. It’s all visual. It’s got apps and CRM, all this crazy stuff. And to this day, I still think it’s one of the best. But we’re done with this thing. I go and hand it over to the marketing department and they just like couldn’t sell it, right. They’re like running Facebook ads, like a website and like, it’s just not working. And I just started getting frustrated, and I got so frustrated one I remember just like leaving the office, and I’m just sitting there at my house like staring at the ceiling fan for like, six in the morning. I’m sitting there and I’m like on Facebook, and it’s crazy. I’ll never forget it. This ad pops up from Russell Brunson, who had no idea at the time it just thought he was crazy dude, because he was just the energy that guy had. I’m like, he’s on speed. He’s got this guy’s crazy, right? And he’s like, I’ll never forget the weird marketing experiments to increase traffic conversions and sales online. I click on this ad and it brings me to VSL and I’m in a funnel and I didn’t know and he is just going crazy on what funnels are and I’m just sitting They’re watching this 90 minute presentation and I’m just captivated. He sucked me right into a sippy got me. I got God. And he brought me right in and I was addicted. I was a Russell Brunson fan. From that moment forward. I walked into the office the next day, and I’m like, Hey, I know how we’re going to sell this product. The market department like what do you mean? I’m like, what you’re doing is not working. Let’s try this. And I start sketching out this funnel, no sleep up a day and a half straight now. And I’m sketching out this funnel. And they’re like, what’s a funnel? And I’m like, I don’t really know. But we’re going to figure it out. So long story short, I go, I call one of our trainers, I say, hey, I need you to create a webinar presentation, he creates a webinar presentation, he sends it back to me. We put it in this funnel. And we launched this thing until the marketing department say hey, just turn on Facebook ads, but instead of to the website, let’s run them to this funnel. They turn them on. We deliver this presentation and not a single person purchase, not one person. And I remember I was just defeated. So I walked outside. I started cursing to myself, I was just angry. But I was just like, this Russell guy. He doesn’t know he’s talking about He lied to me it didn’t work. So I walked back in I go, you know what, let me try one more thing. And I remember I go to my computer and I click on the refresh button, and we have their first sale for like 797. And it blew my mind. It was like the craziest win ever. As at that moment, I go, oh my gosh, like what I did in college. And this world of funnels, if I combine the two, I could actually do something amazing. So I quit. I quit my job the next day. And I went on this mission to learn digital marketing and the science and the funnel side of it as best as I could. And from that moment forward, I’ve been able to launch you know, multiple successful funnels. I’ve been fortunate enough to be two comma club, eight figure award winner, things like that. And that’s great, you know, but like, more importantly, is the ability to have my eyes and my brain opened up to the fact that you can generate a significant amount of income online using sales funnels.
Tyler Jorgenson 14:45
Absolutely. That’s an awesome story, because you said it was a failure. I disagree. It turned around in the end way, the way to sneak that win in there at the end. But so you started this journey, and I’m not sure how far that was ahead of when when we met a few Few years ago, but I’ve been able to, you know, stay connected with you watch as you’ve been building more funnels, we’ve worked on a couple of clients together and had some big things there. You recently did a couple of really big you did a pressure launch and some other really cool stuff. Tell us a little bit about as you’ve pivoted from client work into really Blake nubar the brand, what are you working on? What are you excited about what’s happening there?
Unknown Speaker 15:21
Yeah, so we had an agency have closed it down kind of positioned it more of like let’s start creating digital, help people create digital product businesses. And you know, that’s what we’ve been in from day one. I back in college as a digital product business. There is no other business on the planet, then like a info or a digital product business. That’s what I believe, because you get to build it once and it’s a perpetuity keeps generating income for you as long as it’s up and running. So since then, we’ve launched a product called the social media lead machine, which is basically a product that teaches you how to transform your Facebook profile to generate more leads and more sales right. And we’ve launched it and it crushed it for me it absolutely destroyed it. So I then bought Did I watch the Facebook group around the time and I gave it to everyone in the Facebook group for like a single buck. And I was like, Hey guys, like, let’s see if this works because I want to test to see do something bigger than I thought. And they all had success. They all were crushing it with it. So then I launched paid media to it, it started crushing with it. And eventually, I turned it into an opportunity where people can partner with me and clone my online business and pick a niche and run it for themselves. So ever since I left kind of the agency thing, I’ve just been focusing on teaching people how to launch a successful digital product business. Awesome.
Tyler Jorgenson 16:31
So how does that work? I mean, they go from just maybe a digital product to now a partnership. What’s the difference? And what’s the big opportunity for people?
Unknown Speaker 16:39
Yeah, so I realized when I was launching paid media, too, is that no one was doing this, right. Like when we say profile funnel, and in the marketing community, you might have like 5050 that are like, Yeah, I know what that is. But the rest of the world, the rest of businesses, they have no idea what it is. And I realized when I was selling this core selling this way to teach businesses how to transform their profiles that all Different types of customers were buying it. I remember like digital agencies were buying it. I remember that mixed martial artists, studios, dentists, doctors, attorneys, bike shops, all these different businesses were buying it. And I did some research. And there’s 100 million businesses, and none of them are doing. hundred hundred 500,000 new businesses every month, hundred million businesses none of them are doing if you don’t believe me go click on some random business profile right now. And I guarantee that their business page or even the owner’s personal profile does not look optimized at all. So I realized holy crap like this is going to be a massive opportunity. Let me give people the ability to partner up with me take my business that I’m currently running, right I’m not a course creator that just like makes 12 grand and then says hey, I’m going to teach you now I’m actually doing the thing that you can partner with me with. So I give you everything that I have on my successful digital products business, and you get to clone it, run it as your own. You get the branded as your own. You get all the products, all the marketing, the funnel, the copy the emails, you get everything that I have, and I teach you How to niche down and start providing that digital product to your specific niche. And that’s what the partner program is all about.
Tyler Jorgenson 18:06
So that’s pretty epic. If you’ve been working in marketing or working in Click Funnels and just haven’t found like your big aha, yet that big win that you want to go at. I think this is really something you should look at. So we’ve, if you’re catching this live, I’ve put it into the comments, if you’re catching it on the radio, you’re going to go to Tyler pro slash Blake. And if you’re catching it on podcast, same thing, or if you’re on the website, it’ll be in the in the minutes or in the show notes. So there’s tons of places where you can go learn more about Blake and I really encourage that. So give us some of the wins from some of your students, right. Like it’s easy to talk about us and the big things you guys that you’re doing, but lets you switch into this partner program. Give us a win.
Unknown Speaker 18:45
Yeah, so I want to make sure when we went through this process, I like I said I wanted to test this rigorously. It’s probably six to eight month process of really testing this before I brought it to be comfortable enough to really say you know what, I stand behind this so fully that there’s nothing you’re ever going to say about it. And when we launched it and we had an influx of partners, so many people jumped in on this. And there’s probably three to five new success result driven success stories every day, we’ve had partners do six figures. Now in just a couple of months, we’ve had partners do 80, Grand 50 grand, like literally every number 6010 1010. Five, like so many different partners are having success with it. And honestly, like one of the unique things about the program, honestly, is the fact that you’re at the finish line, right? I could see here if I showed you the folder of how many people are having success, you probably wouldn’t believe you’d be like, there’s no way it’s that many people the results are really truly overwhelming. But the one thing I could say about it is that I’ve never seen and this is not me this call bias. I’m just being objective here. I’ve never seen an online program where you can be up and running and generate sales within minutes of being up and running. And the majority of our people that have success literally get their first sale within like the first day some get some make a few hundred bucks within the first like 25 minutes of being launched because of how quickly We can get this thing up and running and how you’re able to marry the opportunity with the traffic source because it all exists on Facebook where everyone is. So the success rates through the roof you can see a ton of the social proof on a bunch of the different pages that we have. And you’ll see it if you click Tyler’s link, you’ll see all of it. You’ll see I go through different social proof throughout the entire presentation to explain in more detail what it is. But all in all, it’s just amazing to watch people’s lives like change because they’re watching a digital product business that is generating income even if you even want more social proof. You can go on my Facebook profile and click on my story highlights. I throw everything there everything I have. I throw in there, you’ll be scrolling for days on that thing.
Tyler Jorgenson 20:39
I love it. What was the the weirdest niche that had success that you’re like, oh, wow, I didn’t even think about that one.
Unknown Speaker 20:46
We have some weird ones. Man. We have people there’s some few and this is to me because I would have never thought of this. I’m always blown away by somebody. someone’s doing like bookstores. someone’s doing photo booths. never would have thought photo booths. We have like I think we have Dog Trainer we have like CBD, which is not weird, but it’s like, it’s cool because you know, there’s a lot of restrictions with like MLM and CBD on Facebook. When it comes to paid media. This is a way around it as well. I’m sure I’m missing a ton, but there’s some crazy niches people are watching. And I’m just like, that’s unreal, because I would have never thought I think of all the basic niches and there’s, there’s about 2000 there’s thousands of niches to choose from. And I would have never thought these in a million years.
Tyler Jorgenson 21:24
I love it, man. So again, guys, go check out Tyler pro slash Blake, please, if you’re at all interested in learning how Blake’s partner program works and how you can be up and running really quickly. That’s where you need to go. You need to check that out. So Blake, what’s the next big thing on Blake’s entrepreneurial journey? You’re not the kind of guy that calms down slows, you know, kicks back says, Oh, I’m just gonna put this on autopilot. Like somebody tells me you got something big you’re thinking about next?
Unknown Speaker 21:50
Yeah, yeah, we’re working on something big. It’s actually for Currently, the people in the program. There’s something big coming out which I can’t really dive into too much. But all in all, past all that we’re gonna be working on some really cool masterminds. So if you want to learn more about funnels and marketing, and like you want to get by down to the nitty gritty on what it really takes to find success online, I’m going to be so happy to be teaching people that but the next big thing Yeah, I wish I could say it’s going to be pretty epic. I mean, hopefully it’s that because it’s the crack smash, but we’ll have to see. But yeah, we’re just gonna keep pushing the limit. At the end of the day. Entrepreneurship is all about how far can you push things. And every time I put myself in a situation, my business partner put ourselves in a situation that we’re really uncomfortable is every time we’re able to have the most success. And every time we stay in our comfort zone is every time nothing happens. So we’re always trying to challenge things. We’re always trying to push the limit and see how far we can take it.
Tyler Jorgenson 22:41
Let’s dive into what you said there a little bit, which is pushing the limits getting uncomfortable. And also you mentioned partners, right? So not only your guyses partner program, but also business partners. What is some advice that you have for starting entrepreneurs, a lot of people in the community are just getting started. What is some advice that you have For them on, like, first steps or how to overcome, you know, some of those big hurdles.
Unknown Speaker 23:05
Yeah. So first steps, here’s what I did. And you guys can model it if you want. It’s more of the work side of things, but it works. When I first got started, I just helped people without expecting anything in return, right? Because let’s be honest, my time wasn’t worth anything. It just wasn’t like as much as I wanted to sit there and be like, I see too many entrepreneurs make the mistake of thinking that they’re worth more than what they are. And I went into it with, I didn’t have dignity at the time, right? I didn’t have any pride. I was like, I suck. And I know I suck. But I’m going to get better by showing people I’m going to do things for them for free. And then when you do stuff for free for people naturally, they’re like, if you do a good job, they want more, so I wasn’t good, but I knew I was going to get better. And I think a you have to have a lot of self awareness. When you’re first starting out. Just know you’re not going to be that good at anything yet, but you’re going to get amazing. So start giving away your cert like if you want a quick way to start generating income or start build a great network of entrepreneurs start providing a service of giving things away for free and I did that for two years straight. I really Talk to people I was knocking on door type thing like, hey, how can I help you and like all frickin create an image for you, even though I’d never want to do that again. But I’ll do what you need. And all we do is I would join groups and I would just watch and I’d be the first one and try to answer questions. You can go in the clickfunnels group now and just like research back two years ago, you’ll see I’m just answering questions. And I just started doing stuff for free. And I had this like, snowball effect, and I started becoming better and better and better. And eventually, you know, I got to a point where I am, but I’m always a fan of partnering up with people. I think that way, you can go faster. That’s just my philosophy. I know, I know, people that are making eight figures, you know, one man band, you know, got their team. I’m always a fan of finding partners like the yin and the yang, because sure I suck, find someone that’s good. And we’re I’m good find someone that’s not so good. And when you bring your forces together, it’s got the synergistic effect. So my advice for me personally, a, find someone that can do stuff you can’t especially when you’re first starting out because, you know, when I was first starting out, I was broke and I had no money to pay anyone. So I just I knew I had time to get there. No money to give. So find someone that’s kind of in the same situation. And they compliment you and be start giving away your services for free, whatever that might be. And you’re gonna watch as that spirals into something amazing. And next thing you know, you know, you’re doing great things. You’re opening up an agency, you’re selling a digital product, whatever it might be that you’re out there.
Tyler Jorgenson 25:16
I’d love it, man. So real quick, none of us would be where we are without mentors and without guide, you know, people helping along the way. We both mentioned Russell Brunson, and clickfunnels and how amazing their education and their motivation is, here’s an opportunity for you to give some shout outs other people that kind of helped you along the way. Who were those other sages and guides and gurus?
Unknown Speaker 25:35
Yeah, definitely. So um, I call it my Mount Rushmore, and they like changes like, every so often, but if you know Mount Rushmore right before presidents, Mike Dillard has always been an inspiration, right. Like I looked up to Mike Dillard from day one. And amazing enough, I’ve developed an amazing relationship with him. He’s a good friend of mine now. Frank Kern, Dean grazioso. You right? These are like amazing, amazing, like people in the space right now. Do you want to bring it back right like Ogilvy Or Brian Tracy or Dan Kennedy, right? You have like right rates of the greats. But yeah, I mean, it’s marketers like that, that I try and follow and look at people who are doing what I’m doing. They’re just a few chapters or a few steps ahead of me, because they’re paving the way, right? I’m not gonna follow someone that’s like, doing something I don’t want to do. I’m following someone that’s like in the same vein, they’re just a few steps ahead of me because you can learn more from them than you could in any course, or anything could ever teach, you just follow and watch what they do.
Tyler Jorgenson 26:26
Totally agree. All right, the wrap up question that I asked everyone that I’ve asked since 2011 is entrepreneurship is about building a lifestyle so that you can still live it’s not just about the business stuff. What’s one major item on your personal bucket list you’re going to accomplish in the next 12 months?
Unknown Speaker 26:42
Man, that’s a tough one. Because my brain always stays in the business realm. Personal bucket list next 12 months what I’m going to accomplish, travel the world.
Unknown Speaker 26:51
Cool. Where are you gonna go?
Unknown Speaker 26:52
Start probably South America and just go way up the coast and then over Canada and then probably bring it back down. Gotta go to Australia. Got some friends there and then just come right back around and see how it works.
Tyler Jorgenson 27:04
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